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Old 07-28-2004, 02:56 PM
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Lost Record '02 Florida Vote Raises '04 Concern
By ABBY GOODNOUGH

Published: July 28, 2004


IAMI, July 27 - Almost all the electronic records from the first widespread use of touch-screen voting in Miami-Dade County have been lost, stoking concerns that the machines are unreliable as the presidential election draws near.

The records disappeared after two computer system crashes last year, county elections officials said, leaving no audit trail for the 2002 gubernatorial primary. A citizens group uncovered the loss this month after requesting all audit data from that election.

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A county official said a new backup system would prevent electronic voting data from being lost in the future. But members of the citizens group, the Miami-Dade Election Reform Coalition, said the malfunction underscored the vulnerability of electronic voting records and wiped out data that might have shed light on what problems, if any, still existed with touch-screen machines here. The group supplied the results of its request to The New York Times.

"This shows that unless we do something now - or it may very well be too late - Florida is headed toward being the next Florida," said Lida Rodriguez-Taseff, a lawyer who is the chairwoman of the coalition.

After the disputed 2000 presidential election eroded confidence in voting machines nationwide, and in South Florida in particular, the state moved quickly to adopt new technology, and in many places touch-screen machines. Voters in 15 Florida counties - covering more than half the state's electorate - will use the machines in November, but reports of mishaps and lost votes in smaller elections over the last two years have cast doubt on their reliability.

Like "black boxes" on airplanes, the electronic voting records on touch-screen machines list everything that happens from boot-up to shutdown, documenting in an "event log" when every ballot was cast. The records also include "vote image reports" that show for whom each ballot was cast. Elections officials have said that using this data for recounts is unnecessary because touch-screen machines do not allow human error. But several studies have suggested the machines themselves might err - for instance, by failing to record some votes.

After the 2002 primary, between Democratic candidates Janet Reno and Bill McBride, the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida conducted a study that found that 8 percent of votes, or 1,544, were lost on touch-screen machines in 31 precincts in Miami-Dade County. The group considered that rate of what it called "lost votes" unusually high.

Voting problems plagued Miami-Dade and Broward Counties on that day, when touch-screen machines took much longer than expected to boot up, dozens of polling places opened late and poorly trained poll workers turned on and shut down the machines incorrectly. A final vote tally - which narrowed the margin first reported between the two candidates by more than 3,000 votes - was delayed for a week.

Ms. Reno, who ultimately lost to Mr. McBride by just 4,794 votes statewide, considered requesting a recount at the time but decided against it.

Seth Kaplan, a spokesman for the Miami-Dade elections division, said on Tuesday that the office had put in place a daily backup procedure so that computer crashes would not wipe out audit records in the future.

The news of the lost data comes two months after Miami-Dade elections officials acknowledged a malfunction in the audit logs of touch-screen machines. The elections office first noticed the problem in spring 2003, but did not publicly discuss it until this past May.

The company that makes Miami-Dade's machines, Election Systems and Software of Omaha, Neb., has provided corrective software to all nine Florida counties that use its machines. One flaw occurred when the machines' batteries ran low and an error in the program that reported the problem caused corruption in the machine's event log, said Douglas W. Jones, a computer science professor at the University of Iowa whom Miami-Dade County hired to help solve the problem.

In a second flaw, the county's election system software was misreading the serial numbers of the voting machines whose batteries had run low, he said.
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Old 07-28-2004, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Bush brothers preparing to steal again

"Elections officials have said that using this data for recounts is unnecessary because touch-screen machines do not allow human error."

DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
Bullshit Detector Meter on full RED ALERT level. Lethal Amounts found. Clear the area immediately.
DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
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Old 07-28-2004, 05:46 PM
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I would bet my BR that the Dade County election commission is primarily made up of Democrats. I can't imagine that they would help Bush "steal" the election.

As usual, some of the left tilting posters on this forum want to automatically blame Bush for everything, when I doubt that the President has anything to do with the actual problem (in this case the stupidity of the Dade County Elecetion Commission).
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:31 PM
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wrongn. The Governor of the State of Florida is responsible for pushing legislation to provide paper trail back up. He has stated that he "trusts" the process. He refuses to support the legislation. No one should ever trust George W or Jeb Bush again after 2000.

The company that Florida hired this year to exclude felons had the list forced into the public eye through court order.The list that they had planned to use excluded many African Americans that should not have been excluded, while under reporting Cuban felons (that tend to vote Republican)

Once again posters that believe in the fascist wanna be dictator that currently governs show their true colors in trying to hide their corrupt practices from the public.
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:04 AM
PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR is offline
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Default Re: Bush brothers preparing to steal again

you tell em. stay out the bushes.
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