AQs - check-raised on flop

Benwa · #1 07-23-2004, 03:15 AM

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 5 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, Hero ...

This is about my 5th hand at the table. No one has really struck me as terribly out of line or wacko yet.

Do I take one more card here? I figure that I'm really drawing to a backdoor flush/straight with a medium chance that an A will give me the best hand. I give myself a total of 3 outs for the combination of the backdoor outs. Is that too generous? With a total of 6 outs, I like the odds to call but I'll end up paying at least another bet to see the river if I catch a draw card instead of an ace.

imitation · #2 07-23-2004, 03:26 AM

Hero bets this flop why? I want a free card here.

cnfuzzd · #3 07-23-2004, 03:49 AM

I call, then pray i get the flush draw. Part of the reason i do so is because you have UTG+1 going along for the ride.

Always bet this flop. Always.

peace

john nickle

cartoonsoldier · #4 07-23-2004, 04:05 AM

I would fold here.

The odds for you hitting the backdoor flush are not good and UTG might as well have AK or a set, meaning your Ace would not be clean. You might just end up wasting more money on the turn.

In my opinion, folding is right here.

Danenania · #5 07-23-2004, 05:06 AM

With no reads I'd probably call then fold the turn unimproved. Reason being that a lot of micro players go nuts when it gets 3-way or heads-up on the flop and there's a decent chance your Q outs are good. Checkraises like this one are often bluffs or semi-bluffs. If I knew this player to be fairly passive, however, I'd fold to the raise. You also have to think about UTG+1 who seems to like whatever he's got. It could be a weak K, but even if it's just OESD or worse it further hurts your chances of dragging the pot at the end.

Benwa · #6 07-23-2004, 03:03 PM

I bet because I think that it's better than 7.5:1 against that they'll both fold here. If I'd gotten coldcallers, then I'd play it different.

chief444 · #7 07-23-2004, 03:19 PM

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Hero bets this flop why? I want a free card here.

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Are you taking a free card or giving a free card though? Against 2 opponents who limped pf and checked to you on a fairly uncoordinated K high flop this is a definite bet.

Benwa · #8 07-23-2004, 03:23 PM

I thought for a second and called, figuring 12.5:1 was good for the backdoor hearts + A's draw. I planned on folding the turn unimproved.

The rest of the hand is pretty straightforward. I caught the perfect card on the turn and ended up dragging in a good sized pot.

Thanks for the responses. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Great avatar, cnfuzzd

Turn: (6.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB
Main Pot: 13.75 BB, between UTG and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (13.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG shows Ks Jc (two pair, kings and jacks).
Hero shows Qh Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.75 BB.