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Old 07-07-2005, 02:52 AM
OrianasDaad OrianasDaad is offline
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Default AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, TAG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, TAG calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">TAG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">TAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">TAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

OMG...perfect time to clarkmeister on the river.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

Sorry, what's the reference there?
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

Clarkmeister's Theorem:
1. heads-up against thinking player
2. out of position
3. 4th flush card comes on the river

You bet with whatever hand you have (flush or not), typically fold to a raise.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

3-bet the flop. TAG has a weaker king as often as he has a jack, and I think he's going to wait till the turn to raise a J pretty often here. I like 3-betting the flop and seeing what happens.

Clarkmeister's theorem says HU, OOP, you should bet if a 4 flush comes in if you don't have a piece of it, in order to fold slightly better hands.

I don't think it applies to this hand at this limit. It's not folding a J, and a weaker K is likely to have a heart. ( He'll have one about 75% of the time, I think).
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

Put yourself in TAG's place. What hands would you raise with? And how many of those hands does AK beat? KQ? KTs? QTs? I 3-bet this flop. If it gets capped, I consider folding this turn.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

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Put yourself in TAG's place. What hands would you raise with? And how many of those hands does AK beat? KQ? KTs? QTs? I 3-bet this flop. If it gets capped, I consider folding this turn.

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I think folding gives too much credit to a .5/1 tag.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

On the flop you have two choices.
Either 3-bet or call and lead the turn (stop and go).

Since it looked kinda like a freecardplay by tag the heart is pretty scary, but it could be a worse king than yours or a pocket pair.

Seeing the showdown in this spot is not a big mistake IMO.
But I would bet the river and fold to a raise.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: AKo in BB vs TAG limp HU play.

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Clarkmeister's Theorem:
1. heads-up against thinking player
2. out of position
3. 4th flush card comes on the river


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4. you are value-betting a hand which has somehow showdown value but isn't the flush.
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