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Old 12-13-2004, 11:42 AM
cockandbull cockandbull is offline
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Default Axs - pair +flush draw

I've only played 2 orbits with co he seems quite loose compared to the rest of the table who are all quite tight (i was planning to leave, but forgot to uncheck the box)35/30, sb has been at the table for 5 orbits and is quite passive postflop 15/4.5.

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<font color="blue"> Not sure if calling here is good, comments please. </font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

<font color="blue"> a dream flop for me, was thinking about a c/r, but wasnt sure if it would get checked through. Looking back i think co would have bet. </font>

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls, SB calls.

<font color="blue"> again i dont wish it to be checked through so i bet. </font>

Turn: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

<font color="blue"> Who value bets here? I think i'm most probably playing the board with my A and figure that a raise here stinks, so i plan to check and call. I think i'm messing the river up in alot of my hands. Does anyone have a better line, or some sort of advice in general about these sorts of river decisions. </font>

River: (8.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Axs - pair +flush draw

Bet the river.

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Old 12-13-2004, 11:45 AM
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Preflop call is a little loose. Bet the river.
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Axs - pair +flush draw

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Bet the river.



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Why? I'm really having trouble with this concept, so just saying that leaves me none the wiser and i'll end up being pooh bar with hands made up of river decisions rather than talking about hot chicks in the ott forum. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Axs - pair +flush draw

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Preflop call is a little loose

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How tight should i be playing agaisnt such a player raising from the co.
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:47 AM
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Bet the river.



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Why? I'm really having trouble with this concept, so just saying that leaves me none the wiser and i'll end up being pooh bar with hands made up of river decisions rather than talking about hot chicks in the ott forum. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Because worse hands (including KK and KQ) will call, and at worst, you're tied with most aces (AK, AQ, AT beat you).

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Old 12-13-2004, 11:48 AM
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Bet the river.


Why? You're splitting with any other non AQ/AK ace, which seems likely, but someone calling with worse than Ax seems astonishingly unlikely, while 78s or whatnot could be hanging around.
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:50 AM
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Because worse hands (including KK and KQ) will call,


The will? KQ calls here? Where do I find these games again?
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:50 AM
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Preflop call is a little loose

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How tight should i be playing agaisnt such a player raising from the co.

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Got a read?

If I'm the CO I'm isolating a weak limper with a lot of hands, so calling with A6s is probably +EV. Against some players I'll call here in heartbeat; against others I'll fold.

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Old 12-13-2004, 11:52 AM
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Because worse hands (including KK and KQ) will call,


The will? KQ calls here? Where do I find these games again?

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All over the goddamned place. It's sickening if you don't bet this river, especially when you have to call a bet from the CO anyway. Especially when you're up against two opponents.

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