99 Early

[Myst]

#Game No : 2146347529
***** Hand History for Game 2146347529 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:12763828 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Friday, June 03, 00:23:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 15036 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: stivodagreat ( $695 )
Seat 2: Mystraised ( $715 )
Seat 3: Izzyblughin ( $770 )
Seat 4: JEBAC11 ( $845 )
Seat 5: eaglez07 ( $1690 )
Seat 6: tcarterman ( $670 )
Seat 8: bebekids ( $785 )
Seat 9: Qdogg51 ( $865 )
Seat 10: bobbycroix ( $965 )
Trny:12763828 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mystraised [ 9d 9c ]
eaglez07 folds.
>You have options at Table 15032 Table!.
tcarterman calls [15].
bebekids calls [15].
Qdogg51 folds.
bobbycroix folds.
stivodagreat raises [30].
Mystraised calls [30].
Izzyblughin folds.
JEBAC11 calls [15].
>You have options at Table 13809 Table!.
tcarterman calls [15].
bebekids calls [15].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 2d, 4d ]
JEBAC11 checks.
tcarterman checks.
>You have options at Table 13809 Table!.
bebekids bets [75].
stivodagreat calls [75].
Mystraised is all-In [685]

[citanul]

i haven't played any 22s lately, but this doesn't look great to me. i dunno. i hate folding overpairs as much as the next guy, but "no set, no..." you've got 4 opponents, any of whom could easilly have a set. that's a big problem. i dunno, play could be fine, but i don't think i'd do it. i'd just fold on the flop like the sissy i am with a field this large.

citanul

[lastchance]

You play 109's. This is a $22. Your opponents are far too liable to suck here for you to lay an overpair down here to somewhat little strength. With t300 in the pot, I like the push.

[jgunnip]

Generally I call min-raises with TT but not 88. I think 99 is kind of a either or (fold or call) for me. Sometimes I like to play 99 in flop situations like yours, with an over pair, which is why I'll sometimes call a small raise PF, however I don't like having this many opponents. And so being that there are already too many oppoents for my liking in the pot, I would fold this before the flop and defintely in your situation after the flop.

[citanul]

you should be calling a miniraise at lvl 1 particularly, with any pocket pair, especially if there are other players in the pot.

citanul

[jgunnip]

I know that's the general concensus here and I do with any PP if I can close the action, but I feel if I'm going to invest more than 15 chips I like to have at least some overpair strength.

[citanul]

this is a very bad attitude. you should try it out, at least for a week, trying to play small pairs early and cheap.

citanul

[Phill S]

Baah. Id cry if you were playing with my money.

Its called weak-tight for a reason.

Phill

[jgunnip]

I'm very open to trying this. I just hate when I call min-raise or limp and then call the min-raise only for it to get re-min-raised. I'll always in this situation but yeah, I suppose my thinking is that if I put a limit on my PF middle/low PP invest to the pot to the BB, then I can avoid these other situations all together. My intuition says your response will be that these other situations I'm avoiding are most likely negligible to my ROI.

I also don't open limp with 66 or less in the early level. At least one limper and sometimes two if I'm in LP. Yeah, I'm very weak-tight early with PP but what gives. I'm playing the 11s know and I can give up these opportunities now for better ones a round or two down the line.

[pergesu]

Doesn't happen a ton. Don't let selective memory scare you.