omg...anyone fold this?

Colombo · #1 06-14-2005, 01:18 AM

Nearing 3rd hour of 25k guarantee on stars. Im currently in 11th place and the villian is in 2nd.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) converter

BB (t20994)
Hero (t64818)
UTG+1 (t15447)
MP1 (t22250)
MP2 (t105581)
MP3 (t31531)
CO (t24535)
Button (t10233)
SB (t33363)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t3643, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t7200, 5 folds, Hero calls t3557.

Flop: (t14925) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t57600, Hero calls t57543 (All-In).

Turn: (t130068) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t130068) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t130068

Villian shows AA and takes my 11th place stack and now he has a monster.

I probably should have folded this preflop, but on the flop, should i fold? I guess he could be re raising preflop with AK - QQ+. So the only hand that beat me was AA. Would he push with AK?

DemonDeac · #2 06-14-2005, 01:25 AM

u cant fold this preflop

ur gettin ~4.5:1 on the call of the reraise. thats +EV even if u have garbage and he has AA

tough beat

Colombo · #3 06-14-2005, 01:28 AM

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u cant fold this preflop

ur gettin ~4.5:1 on the call of the reraise. thats +EV even if u have garbage and he has AA

tough beat

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I mean on the flop. Do you think im playing my hand and not his? My first reaction to his all in was AA, but i called anyway.

Lloyd · #4 06-14-2005, 01:29 AM

Tough one. Nothing else to do.

DemonDeac · #5 06-14-2005, 01:36 AM

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u cant fold this preflop

ur gettin ~4.5:1 on the call of the reraise. thats +EV even if u have garbage and he has AA

tough beat

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I mean on the flop. Do you think im playing my hand and not his? My first reaction to his all in was AA, but i called anyway.

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im not gonna fold this on that flop. i dont think anyone does unless THEY ABSOLUTELY KNOW he has AA

Harv72b · #6 06-14-2005, 01:39 AM

I might fold if I absolutely knew he had KQ, too. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Tough beat, but I don't see how you can fold it preflop or on the flop. Set over set = the suck.

LearnedfromTV · #7 06-14-2005, 01:49 AM

No way you can fold. This (censored) happens. Just happened to me in the pokerroom 20K, was 3rd with 19 left and went up against #2, KK v AA. Thats poker. Makes you sick though don't it?

Set over set, AAvKK, straight flush/nut flush or boat or quads, some things you just can't avoid. Two comforts: remember every suckout that helped you win a tourney, and realize this one will happen exactly the same way in reverse when the cards are reversed. You get your share. Really tough though, I'm not anti-bad luck story when the stakes are high and it's a legit case of there being nothing you could have done. Tough one man.

Big_Jim · #8 06-14-2005, 07:09 AM

Folding this hand on the flop is the worst thing ever, barring one HELL of a read.

Blackjack · #9 06-14-2005, 07:26 AM

Too hard to lay down AA in a tourney. In a ring game, MAYBEEE but that's really pushing it.

Tough break.

Blackjack

CieloAzor · #10 06-14-2005, 08:16 AM

I call in a shot. It looks more like AK than AA, and he's got more ways of making AK as well. Hell, it looks more like QQ than AA. Tough break.