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Old 07-14-2005, 02:33 PM
donger donger is offline
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Default standard calldown?

I've been running bad lately and doubt has started to creep into my play. It seems like I'm being popped on the turn a ridiculous amount of the time. This is superstandard v an unknown, right?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:36 PM
wheelz wheelz is offline
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Default Re: standard calldown?

Sucks... I suppose vs an unknown it is standard though
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:51 PM
JrJordan JrJordan is offline
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Default Re: standard calldown?

Getting 7.7:1 on the turn I think you have to call because he could have QJ, a pair/draw combo, etc. and you have outs to hit your 9 outer (we'll discount to 7 because of the tainted possibilities).

Then on the river when you're getting nearly 10:1, I make the crying call as well. If it's a mistake at that point it's a small one and you can use it to get real read on the unknown, which may be worth the slightly -EV call.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:16 PM
wonkadaddy wonkadaddy is offline
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Default Re: standard calldown?

standard, but only because you have outs. ur almost always behind, but often only to 2 pair. i agree also that w/out improving you still have to call the river as there's some reasonable chance ur opponent was semibluffing a draw (or pair w/draw)
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