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Old 02-17-2005, 01:16 AM
dfscott dfscott is offline
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Default Misplayed JTs

I'll learn this game eventually, but not on this hand, it seems.

Calling the flop was probably my worst option, right? Is TPGK worth raising or should I just get out?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop

MP3 (t770)
Hero (t820)
Button (t890)
SB (t705)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t755)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t830)
MP2 (t830)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t15</font>, Hero calls t15, BB calls t15.
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:32 AM
afk afk is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

Bump because I'm interested.

With a bigger kicker, I've been making pot sized raises with hands like this. a) i'm not sure if that's right. b) i'm not sure how to play this one.
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:37 AM
Elektrik Elektrik is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

Some will argue, due to the small stacks, this hand should be folded preflop. I'd still call.

I think a flop call is fine. Folding is not bad. Raising is bad. Fold to a bigger bet on the turn if you don't improve, check if checked to.
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:54 AM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

I honestly don't think this play is that bad.

I like calling this flop and seeing what happens on the turn. Might pick yourself up a draw.

-Jman28
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:23 AM
Elektrik Elektrik is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

Oh wait, for some reason I thought you were SB. I fold this preflop.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:05 PM
nokona13 nokona13 is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

Okay, is this one of those situations where I'm leaking chips?

My thinking on this kind of flop is, there's a good chance I have the best hand right now, but I could be beat now or on 4th or 5th street. So I want to define my hand, and make someone drawing to a bigger hand than mine pay incorrectly to see more cards. MP1's bet is probably weak (I play 22s and 33s), not tricky, though of course a set or big pair is possible (though wierdly played big pair). I'd raise to say 65. I'd expect to take the pot a good percentage of the time. If I'm called, maybe I pick up some good draws on the turn (8c, 9c, maybe any J). If I don't I'm hoping to check behind, or fold to a strong bet on the turn. On the flop I'd fold to a reraise. Am I a weak LAG?
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:28 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

Raise the flop. You have position and likely the best hand. Any A, K, Q or diamond is scary, so go ahead and take the pot now.

If someone calls, bet again on the turn. Check behind on river. Fold if they play back at you.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:30 PM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
Raise the flop. You have position and likely the best hand. Any A, K, Q or diamond is scary, so go ahead and take the pot now.

If someone calls, bet again on the turn. Check behind on river. Fold if they play back at you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup.

Irieguy
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Misplayed JTs

no doubt. easy fold.
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