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Old 05-29-2005, 10:50 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero ????


LAGish on both.
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

not here, against these dudes, getting 16-2.
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

With two lags yet to act, fold this preflop.

And I'm not folding the turn, either. CO almost never has a full house or quads here. He has to have TT, 99, or 55. And BB would probably play any ten like this.
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

That seems like a loose preflop raise versus a couple LAGs.
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:59 PM
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That seems like a loose preflop raise versus a couple LAGs.

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How? Whats a better strategy, waiting for premium hands?
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:01 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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How? Whats a better strategy, waiting for premium hands?

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Sure, do what you [censored] want;
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

Also, not LAGs as such, just laggish (typical 1/2 player).
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

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That seems like a loose preflop raise versus a couple LAGs.

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How? Whats a better strategy, waiting for premium hands?

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That is pretty loose from MP, especially if you expect to be 3-bet a lot by the lags. I'd wait for stuff like 88 or ATo where I feel happy capping preflop. I generally tighten up a bit against lags, but crank up the aggression when I play a hand.

Edit: I would not fold either. Pot odds and implied odds more than make up for the times you are drawing dead.
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:04 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

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That seems like a loose preflop raise versus a couple LAGs.

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How? Whats a better strategy, waiting for premium hands?

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How about waiting for K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? I would only open with K7s if I was sitting at a tight table - then I would get up and leave because tight tables at 1/2 6-max suck and are easily avoidable. So yeah, wait for something better.
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: When do I concede I\'m drawing dead?

Agree. LAG tables are best abused by tightening up, and pounding them with relentless agression when we hit a hand.
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