Pocket KK

mojobluesman · #1 10-12-2005, 12:48 PM

No reads.

I have two questions on this one.

Despite the fact that I had no read on MP3, was calling the turn raise when the 3rd spade fell OK?

When the Q fell and SB donk bet, was calling the river OK despite the fact that I might be looking at a raise from MP3? (I never found out what MP3 had because he was disconnected)

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (21 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, MP3 disconnected.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

#2 10-12-2005, 12:50 PM

That must have sucked for mp3. I put him on the flush.

bozlax · #3 10-12-2005, 12:55 PM

You're in a tough spot. Playing in the middle, coordinated board, big pot. I call the turn raise, and hope to get a cheap showdown.

When SB donkbets the river, I call (SB could be betting A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]), and fold if it's 2 back to me. This is just a shitty hand and you're 3rd best.

Asim · #4 10-12-2005, 03:14 PM

calling down is fine IMHO, the way that hand looks, my guess is he hit a set on the flop.. JJ maybe? I dont know too many suited cards other than AK, where i will cap a flop, AQ and stuff will I will normally just call a 3-bet... what do you guys think? is that too weak? I would probably have played the hand the same if I have JJ and hit my set.

what hands will ppl cap with in this situation?

2+2 Junkie · #5 10-12-2005, 03:18 PM

With the turn raise, I fear slow played JJ, 99, or a flush. However, I would call down.
River: The donk bet probably means a straight. I would fear the raise by MP3 and would probably fold here, but I am weak.

lautzutao · #6 10-12-2005, 03:35 PM

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With the turn raise, I fear slow played JJ, 99, or a flush. However, I would call down.
River: The donk bet probably means a straight. I would fear the raise by MP3 and would probably fold here, but I am weak.

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I'm not sure about the 99, but a slowplayed JJ is definitely possible. Only other possiblity in a projected 3-bet range is AKs, and I don't think he has it.

MP3's disconnect pretty much confirms he has a set: he doesn't want to pay off the donkbet straight/flush that SB has.

lautzutao · #7 10-12-2005, 03:39 PM

Oh yeah, to answer your questions: I do think the call on the turn is ok. The river call I'm not so sure... The pot is pretty big, but MP3(if not disconnected) is probably going to raise here if he DOES have the flush.

I guess without reads I call, though I'm pretty darn sure I'm beat.

You said that MP3 got his hand folded? I thought Party had Disconnect protection?