An ITM exercise

[eastbay]

3-handed, even stacks totalling 10k chips.

Fairly typical mid-high buyin game, you expect calls from the top 15% of the Karlson-Sklansky hand rankings: 44+,A9o+,A7s+,KJs+.

Start with blinds 200/400.

From the button, what hands are winning push hands?
What about from the SB?

Then consider a looser game or the same game after a lot of aggressive play where images have degraded to pretty loose, and calling standards drop to top 25% of KS rank: 22+,A3o+,A2s+,KJo+,KTs+,QJs.

Now what are good hands from the button?
And the SB?

If you're really motivated, repeat all 4 questions for blinds 250/500.

My line to come.

eastbay

[curtains]

Is the point going to be that you are more motivated to push with mediocre hands once the calling standards have become looser?

A pretty rare occurance late in sit and go's.

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
Is the point going to be that you are more motivated to push with mediocre hands once the calling standards have become looser?


[/ QUOTE ]


Uhh... what? I suggest you try it yourself. No, that is of course the opposite from the correct trend.

[ QUOTE ]

A pretty rare occurance late in sit and go's.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's rare that SnGs get looser at the end? What are you smoking today?

eastbay

[curtains]

Well when I tried it, it became more +EV to push when they had looser calling standards.

I meant that it's rare you'll ever want to push when you expect to be called by more hands as opposed to less. Just try it out with 66, its+ EV against the looser calling standards but -EV against tight players.

[rybones]

I would play, but it would be cheating. I would use your sng-anlysis tool to get the same answers you have.
[img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Rybones

[curtains]

I'm very sorry, I thought you said 10k chips for each player! I was using that assumption, believing it was some weird type of sit and go.

[curtains]

Anyway seems like with the tight standards a huge % of hands are correct to push, and with the looser standards very few hands are correct to push, just like normal. For instance KTs is incorrect to push accroding to the program (However I don't think it's correct to fold KTs here).

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]

Well when I tried it, it became more +EV to push when they had looser calling standards.


[/ QUOTE ]

What, if you had aces?

That's not the question. The question is how many hands are profitable.

eastbay

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]

Anyway seems like with the tight standards a huge % of hands are correct to push, and with the looser standards very few hands are correct to push.

[/ QUOTE ]

You could possibly be more vague, but I'm not sure how.

An important variable I brought up purposely was position, for example.

But you're "cheating" anyhow. I'm more interested in people's intuition.

eastbay

[ZebraAss]

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I didn't understand a word you just said.

I think this thread is way over my head at this point of my game. But I will try to learn.