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Old 08-14-2005, 05:22 AM
pzhon pzhon is offline
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Default Re: EV stats and max winrate questions/observations.

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Proabilites:
Pocket pairs: .4525
Suited: .1508
Offsuit Non-Pair: .6033


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Each offsuit hand has 12 possibilities out of 1326 = 2/221 = 1/100 * 0.9050.
Each suited hand has 4 possibilities out of 1326 = 2/663 = 1/100 * 0.3017.

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For instance, KQs is listed with an EV of 0.39. You'll get this hand .15% of the time. .39 * .15 = .0588. That's how much this hand is worth towards the theoretical "maximum" winrate.


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I see no connection between the theoretical maximum win rate and the PokerRoom stats. PokerRoom averages the results over all of the players dealt that hand. Some called 3 cold with A4o; some folded. Some overlimped with KK. If you wouldn't do those, the numbers may not be accurate for you. If it isn't theoretically correct to make those plays, the numbers will not tell you much about optimal play.

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This magical theoretical figure, by-the-way is about 4.87 BB/100.

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I suspect you are adding up all of the positive numbers without subtracting the negative numbers. This would be wrong. If you got this figure another way, please explain your method.

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- How reliable are the numbers at pokerroom?

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The values for the hands in particular levels and particular positions are pretty noisy, perhaps with errors of 0.05 in common limits, and much more in less common limits. When you average over all positions and limits, the noise is reduced, but you no longer have a figure that is valid for any limit or position.

In addition to the noise, there are systematic errors.

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- These stats at pokerroom do include the blinds, correct?

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Yes.
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