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Old 04-14-2005, 09:01 PM
Mike Haven Mike Haven is offline
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Default Re: Have I been wrong in calculating my outs.....

i am really trying to follow your calculations, but i keep getting lost, i'm afraid

however, i think that you are including your own money in the winnings you make when you hit on the river as profit

if that's the case, although the money put into the pot on the flop isn't yours any more, neither is it profit to you if you end up winning the pot

i am still not convinced you should raise a draw for value
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