[Ryan527h]

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No.

What kind of flop are you hoping for? This shouldn't need explaining, but if you're asking, it probably does, so here:

1) You flop a pair. - Most of the time, it won't even be top pair. If does happen to be, you pick up a very small pot or get called by A8 or AT and lose more chips. This isn't good.

2) You flop a flush draw - But it's not close to the nut flush draw. On top of that, it will most likely cost you to draw to it, and if you play to the river, you will only hit it roughly 1 in the 3 times. The majority of the time, you lose more chips. This is bad.

3) You flop a straight draw - See #2, replace the word "flush" with the word "straight". Also, the odds to making it are slightly worse.

Some of the flops you would like include:
1)T8x - will happen about 2% of the time.
2)TTx or 88x - will happen about 1.35% of the time.
3)79J - will happen about .33% of the time.



You can ignore all the numbers though. The point is, you will rarely see a flop that is truly good for you. When you consider the times you do vs. the times you don't, it is a very -EV move to play this hand, even early.

This thread is now over.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah to make it profitable I had have to win 33x the blind when I actually hit two pair, a straight, trips, to make this profitable. Thanks.