I agree also. I'm guessing the same sort of thing is happening with the LC's crowd too. At the Oaks, the game tightened up for a while after LC's became popular, but it's been getting looser and looser all the time. there's usually only one 15 game spread, but it's pretty consistant, and usually has no props in it at night. While this doesn't sound like much, the games is steady and great (although a little wild at times). A lot of people who were spending a lot of time at LC's have been playing in emeryville more lately.