Re: Counting outs at the remedial level.
i assuming you mean an ace, a four, and a TWO.
if any of those cards win you the pot, then yes, you have 10 outs. and yes, you are thinking about it somewhat correctly in that if the pot offering you 6:1 on a 4:1 shot you should call...
but do you really have 10 outs???
do you really think a pair of fours will win all the time?
if an ace falls, will you be outkicked and lose anyway?
because those 6 outs (3 fours, and 3 aces) are somewhat tainted (as in, even if you hit them you might lose) -- you need to discount them a little bit.
i'd say maybe you could give yourself about 2 outs worth of outs instead of 6. (about half for the aces, 1.5 instead of 3, and about nothing for the fours -- but if you must, lets say 0.5 at most)
now you can add the gutshot outs (four twos), so maybe you have about 6 total outs.
6 outs is requires a bigger pot... i'd fold the flop.
ok. i typed this out and then read your read on MP1. so since he's betting he likely has a pair...and if he has a pair, he likely can beat a pair of fours...so forget about the fours as being outs at all.
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