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actually I just did it at the suggestion of my cousin, who I found out is just used to doing it that way. well Im committing to Java, and I've been using an online tutorial, I guess thats the best way to start?

thanks for the help... this language is sooooo less...... cryptic!

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Haha, yes it can be less cryptic but it also has many traps for c and C++ programs. Oh well. I only use calls to outside functions when I absolutly have to (suprisingly more often than you would think). Java has really picked up in speed, my one complaint is still that there is not a great visual development environment, but then again I can't take VB to a linux box can I?

{Yes I know there are attempts at making a vb like language for linux, please I'm just trying to make a point in my simple minded little way.}