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Old 09-25-2003, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Always open raise or fold, never open limp? Expert opinions

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They most certainly do advocate this strategy. You have not done your research. Go to Ultimate Bet and download Howard Lederer's seminar on limit hold'em. Note that the strategy I am referring to is to never limp in if you are first to act, or if no one has entered the pot voluntarily before you. It is not that they say you should raise every hand you play. Do a search on rgp or look in the archives here for more on this debate. Abdul and Sklansky and Malmuth have argued about it on both forums.

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You have just changed your position. In your first post you had nothing about only UTG play or being forst to act at all. Simply admit you were wrong and are now trying to crawl out of the whole you dug even though you are still incorrect.


Here is a chart from Abdul's site:

Tight Game Opening Strategy



Raise and call 2
QQ JJ TT KQs KTs JTs

Raise and call 1
77 QJs KJs AQ AJ

Limp-reraise / raise & call
AKs AQs AK

Limp & call 1
66 55 A9s A8s A7s KQ

Limp-reraise
AA KK 99 88 AJs ATs



You will notice the limp/call hands with no regard as to position.

And another chart by Abdul:

Loose-Aggressive Game Opening Strategy



Limp-call 2 / raise & reraise
99 88

Limp-reraise / raise & reraise
AK AKs

Raise & reraise
AA KK

Raise & call 2
A5s A4s A3s KQs AQ

Raise & call 1
AJ KQ

Limp & call 1
QJs JTs QTs 66

Limp & call 2
ATs A9s A8s A7s A6s KJs KTs 77

Limp-reraise
QQ JJ TT AQs AJs


Still has limping in as acceptable.
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