[bluefeet]

yeah, some pretty muddled rambling there. i don't think your point MB was my intent.

i propose push.

he mentioned "not being desperate" (or something to that effect) regarding the not pushing arguement. i was trying to make the point that with a "standard" raise and a whiff, he was essentially looking at laying the hand down (minus a few hundred chips). with the blinds raking through after this one, he's basically pushing with less next orbit. i personally do not like raising. i could fold easier than raising. but i push [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]