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Old 07-08-2005, 02:16 PM
Big Folder Big Folder is offline
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Default Check Raising when you hit tptk in your raised pot

I just wanted to see what everyone thought of this:

Lets say you have:
A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG and you raise
you get 3 cold callers and hte blinds come in

party 1/2

The pot is 12sb and the flop comes:
A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

In this spot my buddy would go for the check raise his logic being that the pot is so big nobody will drop if you bet out giving the field 13 to 1 to call.

While I think he makes a good point, that few if anyone will drop, the problem is how can you check raise when you have no idea where the bet may come from?

If it gets checked around to the button who is the player that will bet out hoping to take the pot then it would work fine. But what if the guy to your immediate left bet? It would essentially be the same as you betting. Or what if the bet came from two players to your left? Would you check raise to knock out one or two opponents while increasing the odds on the turn past the 10 to 1 range?

It may be checked around allowing you to lead out on the turn giving the field 7 to 1 to call, which is better than the odds they had on the flop but giving a free card isn't great even though there are no draws out there. But most flops have some draws so what would you do in this case when giving a free card can be a disaster?

The reason I brought this up is because a post just got put up where the guy had TPTK on the flop and bet into a large field the whole way. On the river a guy raised him when the river completed a possible gutshot which if that is what happened the villian had the odds to call all the way with.

Is this a situation where protecting your hand isn't possible since the only way it would be is if you can check raise a button bet?
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