Re: bad push?
Pushing with any 2 sucks here. Pushing with J8s, I think, is pretty bad.
Don't get THAT desperate. You need to be desperate, and I'd push any 2 from the SB, a very wide range of hands (including this one) on the button, maybe CO.
Edit: Wow, J8s from MP with 5x BB? I need to get more desperate with my pushes...
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