Thread: who's right?
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Old 05-05-2003, 01:12 PM
Louie Landale Louie Landale is offline
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Default Re: who\'s right?

On his side: He's only a 2:1 underdog to make the flush (with 2 cards to come), and if nobody has a bigger flush he's making money getting 3:1 for his raise. With that big flop, there is a pretty big chance people hit it because of their big cards rather than because they have a flush draw. Getting people out is irrelevant, as is making the pot bigger, as is the out-of-position ability to snag a free card or steal it.

On your side: there is still a chance the tight cold-caller (you), of course, has a flush draw; he can easily be up against 2 pair and so lose to a full house, and of course the raiser may raise again dropping the weaker calls. He's only getting 3:1 for a 2:1 shot.

He's making money if he has the only flush draw, but his main consern, of course, is that he's drawing dead.

All-in-all I'd say it was a "slightely bad" raise, but NOT a "horrible" one. Its a "slightely good" raise if the cold-callers are loose (they can have anything) or if there was one more cold caller.

You definately made a mistake if you text message was broadcase to the other players. Lets not teach just because you are frustrated. I'd say you made a slight mistake even if your message was private, unless this was some sort of "friend".

You seem to have forgotton that, even though he has a drawing hand, he can EASILY be "betting for value" if he gets enough callers. Implied odds have nothing to do with that.

- Louie
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