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Old 12-21-2004, 11:58 PM
Derek in NYC Derek in NYC is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw + pair + bkdoor straight...slow down?

1. Fold preflop
2. Flop is fine
3. 4th street is fine.
4. Reraise the river, call a cap.

The 4th street conclusion requires some explanation. You have 8 outs to the nuts (any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] except the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), 1 out to the likely nuts (9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), 4 outs to the non-nut but probably good str8, and 3 outs to two pair (any 6) which may or may not be good. An ace either doesnt help you, or you dont need it because you're ahead, so I will count the ace as zero.

This is a total of 14-16 outs with 1 card to come, meaning you're about 2:1 against. Now ordinarily, if you can get 2 people or more to come along on the ride, you should raise for value.

However, because of position and the order of the betting, a raise here is more likely to thin the field and isolate you against the raiser. So just call and hope that MP1 calls behind. Now if MP1 had been the bettor, and MP2 had called, I would suggest raising unless you think MP1 would reraise.
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