[Irieguy]

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Huh? "Outplaying your opponents" is not a method of winning a poker hand.
The correct second method for winning a poker hand is if all your opponents fold.

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My definition of ouplaying somebody is getting them to fold a better hand, or a correct draw. Perhaps the terminology I use with my friends in town does not apply to the world-wide audience of this forum... fair enough.

We would play this hand differently. I think that which method is better depends entirely on the player's ability to make correct value-based decisions. So, this is going to be different for everybody. It may be that your method is best for you, and my method is best for me. But what's fun about poker theory is that it's possible that the converse is true. Now I need to think about it... and I may get better as a result.

For all of you newbies... if the on-line SNG is the goose that lays golden eggs, then this forum is like vocational school for hatchery workers.

Irieguy