Re: Problem with outs....
the problem is that you don't know what the other players folded, so how can that factor into your decision making for the hand?
You don't know if they folded your backdoor st8 outs, or your backdoor flush outs, or all the blanks.
You simply have to use the information presented to you. Unknown cards are unknown and therefore are treated with the same frequency as cards still left in the deck.
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