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Old 08-05-2002, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Stud Proposition; Interesting Questions



It makes a difference how the pairs are dealt.


If the deuces are always split and the aces always buried, then the deuces are certainly helped.


It should be noted that a great deal of a superior player's advantage is reading hands. If both pairs are buried, then almost all of that advantage evaporates. Each player is playing with all of their cards exposed, until the river, except for the suits of the pair which in rare circumstances affects a flush draw.


If the deuces are buried, then the weaker player will be able to read the hand as well as the expert. At that point, the advantage for the aces is so large that a five or six (at most)rule "system" implemented by a simpleton would win easily. In fact, betting on every street unless facing trips or better would win big for the aces. Many times, the aces will know that the deuces are drawing dead at the river and can even bet the river with impunity.


Even if the deuces are split, the hand reading advantage of the expert is severely reduced. The simpleton will always know if trips are made until the river and usually know if two pair is made.


That is the point. The rules handicap the better player in two ways: 1) weaker cards and 2) reduced value of hand-reading. Thus, much of the expert's advantage (which is being relied upon to overcome the starting hands) is negated by those very starting hands (since they are known). I just do not think there would be enough skill remaining to allow the starting hand advantage to be overcome.
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