[Mikey]

Ok... first of all.

You have position on both opp.

On the turn you have been checked to by both opp.
ACTION: You bet, BB calls, and not Middle guy checkraises.

The river now is definitley a new scenario and it is my best estimate from experience that he who checkraises the turn almost always bets the river, so effectively you will be putting in 2 BB to see this hand through that is why I'm calc. effective odds since you are going to also put in an extra bet on the river.

You will be effectively putting in 2 BB to see this hand through if you improve therefore I'm adjusting my odds to the pot size and the future bets I will be putting in.

This type of hand is not the same if you are drawing to a straight or a flush or any type of lock hand. Those hands are easy to calc. effective odds at that particular interval, because if you miss your straight, you won't be putting in any more bets, if you miss your flush, you won't be putting in any more bets.

This hand is a little different, because we aren't sure if when we hit any of those cards if we have a win, we may or may not, therefore I think it should be calculated differently.


Trent, Mikey and Sue (if you can get that reference, you da man) *SWINGERS