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marand
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Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats included)
      #1472674 - 01/03/05 09:45 PM

I have recently started playing 5/10 SH on party. It seems like I am a little bit too tight, but I can't figure out which hands to add.

Total hands: 10,085
VP$IP: 19.85 (Giving up a lot of EV or just some very marginal hands?)
VP$IP SB: 30.21
PFR: 12.59%
Folded SB Tp Steal: 87.61% (A little too tight? The hands I defend with depends a lot of who the raiser is.)
Folded BB To Steal: 65.07%
Fold BB To Steal HU: 60.54% (Seems reasonable? At 5/10 there are some players who hardly ever steal raises, if they only raise 5-10% is seems correct to defend less than against very aggressive players)

Att. To Steal Blinds: 28.81%

BB/100: +1.78 (doesn't mean anything with 10k hands I guess)
Went To Showdown: 32.96%
Won $ At SD: 56.58% (A little high? Probably not enough hands for it to be accurate?)

Player actions: Raise% Bet% Call% Check% Fold% AF
Pre-f: 12.5% 0.00% 9.11% 9.39% 69%
Flop : 6.14% 30.95% 11.58% 28.72% 22.60% 3.20
Turn : 5.19% 30.07% 12.24% 34.55% 17.95% 2.88
River: 3.75% 28.27% 21.25% 35.15% 11.58% 1.51

Aggression factor post-flop 2.61 (too high? I don't call enough?)

Folded To River Bet: 39.06%

When Folds Hand: No fold 15.24%, Preflop 70.26%, Flop 8.73%, Turn 4.09%, River 1.69%

Check Raises: 1.70% (too low? I feel I often check/raise the flop from the blinds, especially when a pre-flop raises autobets the flop and I have hit it)


Stats for different positions:
Position VP$IP PFR RFI
B 20.86 16.19 8.20
1 20.11 17.81 11.48
2 14.89 13.96 11.35
3 11.96 11.64 11.64 (guess I have limped first in 0.3% hmm)
BB 16.12 5.71 0.00 (Looks like I get to check often here)
SB 30.21 10.09 4.50

I open with the following hands:
UTG: 77 AT KJ A7s KTs QTs JTs (is this too tight? which hands should I add?)
MP : 66 A9 KJ QJ A2s K9s QTs T9s J9s

Depending on who is in the blinds, but something like the following.
CO: 55 A2 KT QT K8s Q9s 98s T8s
Button: 44 A2 K9 QT JT K7s Q8s 87s 97s J8s

Any comments appreciated.


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TazQ
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Re: Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats include [Re: marand]
      #1472705 - 01/03/05 09:57 PM

You know, I asked some people what hands to play when I was starting out (and even later when I was playing 10/20). Looking back on it I realize how naive I was (and may be still am).

What you need to do is look at what people play at various VPIPs. If you have a guy limping in 80% of the time and the blinds are relatively tight, take advantage of it and raise hands you figure are better. If you have two very weak passive players who rarely see showdown you can pretty much get away with anything.

A guy with a 25% PFR raises UTG, start 3-betting hands like ATo.

You obviously know what is going on in the game. You're probably a solid winner at 5/10. Just take some time and think things out. A lot of what people raise preflop has to do with an image they're trying to cultivate as well. Not only that, but while A5s raised UTG can be profitable for some players, it'll certainlly be -EV for others.

If you blindly follow a set PF strategy like you listed in your post you won't achieve the highest BB/100 you can.

Obviously this entails some extra work on your part, but trust me it is worth it.


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Grisgra
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Re: Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats included) [Re: marand]
      #1473026 - 01/03/05 11:20 PM

Quote:


VP$IP SB: 30.21





My VP$IP in the SB is 45%. Bring yours up a little and you'll raise your overall VP$IP in no time.


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ctv1116
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Reged: 12/18/03
Posts: 124
Loc: Princeton, NJ
Re: Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats included) [Re: Grisgra]
      #1473047 - 01/03/05 11:24 PM

I think 45% is a little high, but you can play 100% from the SB just like you do heads up

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rory
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Reged: 09/29/03
Posts: 29
Re: Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats include [Re: marand]
      #1473284 - 01/04/05 12:31 AM

Fold more often in the BB-- you are playing too loose.

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marand
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Reged: 11/22/04
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Re: Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats include [Re: rory]
      #1474118 - 01/04/05 05:30 AM

Quote:

Fold more often in the BB-- you are playing too loose.




This goes against what I have read from several other people.
Can you explain your reasoning?
5/10 players are so passive that when they raise you need to tighten up your defends in the BB?


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marand
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Re: Too tight? Trying to find which hands to add... (10k stats include [Re: TazQ]
      #1474128 - 01/04/05 05:36 AM

Quote:

What you need to do is look at what people play at various VPIPs. If you have a guy limping in 80% of the time and the blinds are relatively tight, take advantage of it and raise hands you figure are better. If you have two very weak passive players who rarely see showdown you can pretty much get away with anything.

A guy with a 25% PFR raises UTG, start 3-betting hands like ATo.





Thanks for the reply; I have been working on just that.
Playerview makes it very easy to get a "read" preflop.

I regulary raise 1-2 loose limpers with hands like Axs or KJ.

Against a raise I sometimes reraise A9o and I sometimes fold AQo depending on who raised. (The maniac or the rock.)


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