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Peter_rus
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PF Limp tricks. Is there any reason in SH?
      #1054413 - 09/23/04 04:12 PM

Reasonable time ago i played full tables and use some advices of Abdul PF which i find very smart those times - such as limp-reraise with AA,KK,AKs,KJs,QJs,AKo(50% of times),99,88. Limp-call with KQo, 66,55..., raise/cap with AJs,AQs,QQ-TT, raise-call with KTs/77 etc..

So PF hands were mixed up the way to give lesser information with your PF-actions to other opponents as well as combine your caps, 3-bets and raises with marginal hands to give marginal hands more profit as well as to get more action postflop when you really got monster. Those ones also include some "sacrifice" limps as well as raises and caps which are -EV but used to get more in future rounds.

At first time i use some of these tricks in my SH-game... but then when i came to 2+2 i say them good-bye (right now nearly to all of tricks) cause many good players here said that limping first is a crime.

I want to ask you - are there any reason to use some of these tricks in SH routinely, switching them from time to time (for eg.. limp-raise with AA,QQ raise/cap with KK,JJ and than switching them) or there is no place for such tricks in SH?

P.S. Right now i use some tricks only against 2+2'ers and players who pay much attention to my play (those are easy to spot for easy folds on flop after my 3-bets PF for eg) who know how i *must* play and wait for some info signs from me to fold/call/raise.

Edited by Peter_rus (09/23/04 04:13 PM)


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Ulysses
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Re: PF Limp tricks. Is there any reason in SH? [Re: Peter_rus]
      #1054772 - 09/23/04 05:40 PM

I think there can be quite a bit of value from this sort of stuff, especially when playing against regulars or if you're going to be at the same table for a while. FWIW, I believe I limp first more than most 2+2ers.

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tripdad
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Re: PF Limp tricks. Is there any reason in SH? [Re: Ulysses]
      #1054797 - 09/23/04 05:45 PM

then again, trickery is of the Devil.

cheers!


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Re: PF Limp tricks. Is there any reason in SH? [Re: Ulysses]
      #1055983 - 09/24/04 12:04 AM

Quote:

I think there can be quite a bit of value from this sort of stuff, especially when playing against regulars or if you're going to be at the same table for a while. FWIW, I believe I limp first more than most 2+2ers.




I don't know how much chance there is to limp-reraise at most of the short tables which are often passive (I'm thinking mainly of 5/10, you guys are probably thinking of 10/20?).

But I'm starting to wonder if open-limping makes sense against a lot of the loose/passives who play fairly correct against raises in front (i.e. fold), even though they limp/overlimp way too much. I still like raise or fold behind the limpers.

So against this kind of player, open-limp KJs UTG?


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Re: PF Limp tricks. Is there any reason in SH? [Re: Peter_rus]
      #1056646 - 09/24/04 06:10 AM

6-handed you'll be opening with so much crap you might aswell play your legitimate hands straight forward also to keep them guessing.

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