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Abagadro 06-29-2004 09:43 PM

Overpair on the turn
 
I seem to be doing this a lot lately. Interested in comments.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t800)</font>
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
<font color="C00000">MP3 (t800)</font>
CO (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t50</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t50, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (t175) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls t150.

Turn: (t475) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t600 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls t600 (All-In).

River: (t1675) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1675
<font color="green">Main Pot: t1675 (t1675), between Hero and MP3.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 (t1675).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Jc Js (one pair, jacks).
MP3 shows Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1675. </font>

ddubois 06-29-2004 09:58 PM

Re: Overpair on the turn
 
I probably would have played it the same way. To my knowledge, there's not much you can do when someone is willing to take the risks involved in playing their KK that deceptively. Make a note on him, and try to flop more sets. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

skierdude1000 06-30-2004 12:17 AM

Re: Overpair on the turn
 
Just ran into a bad hand and the guy did a nice job of setting the trap by just calling through

Hood 06-30-2004 06:07 AM

Re: Overpair on the turn
 
I don't like the guy's slowplay here. There's a flush and straight draw, and hero's draw to trips. I think he should have pushed on the flop.

Slowplaying overcards seems to have come up a lot recently ... I'm still sticking with the fact that it's generally a very bad idea.

mackthefork 06-30-2004 08:35 AM

Re: Overpair on the turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
Slowplaying overcards seems to have come up a lot recently ... I'm still sticking with the fact that it's generally a very bad idea.

[/ QUOTE ]

Amen to that, I'm with you, trying to be clever when you aint is a recipe for getting your aces cracked by rags.

Regards ML

Abagadro 06-30-2004 11:01 AM

Turn bet
 
Anyone think the all-in was too high of a bet considering it is the first hand of the tourney? I obviously put him on T, flush draw or overcards and wanted to push him out at that point. I had a similar hand where I pushed queens as an overpair on the turn against a floped set that called a rather large flop bet. I know you have to eat these type of hands every once in a while, but am starting to wonder if a flop call of a large bet is a warning sign I should be paying attention to.


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