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1800GAMBLER 03-12-2004 11:20 AM

Simple AA party question
 
Limpers, lots of limpers, I get AA, i raise 5 - 6 BBs, one caller.

Flop:

3 5 7 flush draw board.

I bet the pot and get min raised.

I can fold here right? Someone scream it.

crockpot 03-12-2004 11:23 AM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
you can, but situations like this are why i like to know what a min-raise means from a certain player. here, depending on the guy, it could be a flush draw, a straight, a set, or a hand like 76. i don't put him on a total bluff, but whether you want to play against that spectrum of hands is up to you. if i did play, i would call the raise and move in on the turn if it looks harmless.

1800GAMBLER 03-12-2004 11:28 AM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
I can't analyse what the min raise means from each player since i'm robbing 4 tables :/ In the hand i moved in, forgetting that rarely any players raise their draws, he shows the set.

I'm playing awful at party lately, i don't know if it's either a tilt, bad adjustments or because i'm missing out on some much information by playing so many tables.

theBruiser500 03-12-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
Did the guy who minraised you have position on you? If he checkraised I'd give him credit for a stronger hand, but if he minraised with position he could be doing it to get the turn for free or whatever.

Why would you play it that way Crockpot?

crockpot 03-12-2004 12:25 PM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
somehow position slipped my mind when i posted, since there was no other action listed. i agree that a check-raise is a big power play and he is much more likely to be on a draw, so i would usually fold.

i think you answered your own question. if the guy is trying to get a free card with a draw, you want to play the hand in such a way that you can get away from your hand if his draw hits on the turn, and charge him the maximum if it doesn't. if you think he probably has a made hand, go ahead and fold here.

if the money is very deep, an all-in might be too big of a bet on the turn. but since jay plays mainly on party, i doubt this is the case.

cornell2005 03-12-2004 12:33 PM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
i think if he min-raises you then call if its small enough and go into shutdown and hope for an A on turn.
on party i find min-raises in a situation like this usually = the person trying to milk a big made hand. set is the only hand i can possibly think of here. really there arnt any other legitamate possibilities
maybe you have been struggling lately becasue you lost alot of respect for party players. that happend to me about a week ago, i started assuming they were playing poorly too often. when i treated them with more respect i got back on track again

theBruiser500 03-12-2004 12:57 PM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
[ QUOTE ]
i think you answered your own question. if the guy is trying to get a free card with a draw, you want to play the hand in such a way that you can get away from your hand if his draw hits on the turn, and charge him the maximum if it doesn't. if you think he probably has a made hand, go ahead and fold here.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is very clever.

1800GAMBLER 03-12-2004 07:42 PM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
When i analyse hands of party poker players i forget the word 'position' because i truely believe it means nothing to them.

theBruiser500 03-12-2004 11:45 PM

Re: Simple AA party question
 
Here's another question for you Crockpot. If I put my opponents on a draw then I'll just keep raising on the flop. In what situations should you raise on the flop, and when is it better to call on the flop and lead out on the turn?

danny

theBruiser500 03-14-2004 04:28 AM

bump
 


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