Missed value bet
 

BB is typical Party .5/1 loose passive. Don't have a note on CO.

Party Poker 0.50/1 (10 handed)
Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and is SB

UTG limps, EP1 limps, EP2 limps, MP1 limps, CO limps, Button folds, Hero limps, BB checks

Flop(7 SB): Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks, BB bets, UTG folds, EP1 folds, EP2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls

Turn(11 BB): 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 folds, CO calls

River(14 BB): K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks

Result in white: <font color="white">CO shows AQo, BB has JdTd, and MHIG. CO played the hand horribly, but I can't talk too much because I'm embarrassed about my river play here. I let the third spade scare me off a bet.</font>

Re: Missed value bet
 

i feel that i do the same thing like you many times when i have the best hand.

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Played fine. I would have definitely called a bet on the river.

Nice river card [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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What makes you think that the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] helped them more than it helped you?
Often they will stay with as little as bottom pair, Acehigh, gutshots, backdoor flushes, you name it.
And the thing is that they will be just as scared of the flush as you were, so they might even call you with better hands. like straights...small flushes...
And since the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and T is on the board they would have to play some really raggish hands unless its a connecter/one-gab. Loose passive as they are, they wouldnt dare raising you with a baby flush.
Well, maybe, but bet and call a raise.

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Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river.

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Played fine. I would have definitely called a bet on the river.

I dont like the flop c/r very much. I wouldnt want a big spade to see the turn for cheap, I most likely have the best hand and the BB or UTG may raise facing the field with two bets and help my cause.

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I like the flop c/r, especially with six players left to act after him. Anyone with Qx, a four-flush or an OESD will likely bet at this flop, which gives Hero the opportunity to raise to get more money into this pot and try to knock out other hands like middle/bottom pair or gutshots which could outdraw him. However, if Hero bets out, there is no guarantee that anyone will raise, and his hand will remain just as vulnerable.

Or is my thinking way off here?

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Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river.

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With this flop from the SB with 6 to act behind, SB can check and reasonably expect someone to bet. He wants to get as much money in as possible while he's the favorite to win.

He bet the turn.

What hands that he can beat will call his river bet? What hands that he doesn't lose to will raise him?

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"What hands that he can beat will call his river bet?"
More than you think.
What hands that he doesn´t lose to will raise him?
lower twopair,a pair of kings, weird [censored].
And some of the hands that does beat him, will sometimes call, aint it sweet ?

How do you quote anyway? seems like I wasted some time here [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Hey Chess,

I think you should bet because of the reasons I said in my previous post. I really dont like the check on the flop because of two reasons one a check thru I think is bad but more importantly what do you do if the bet comes from your immediated left or close to it as it did. A check raise now ties anyone that called to the pot and doesnt knock out anyone. Hopefully someone else will comment.