KQo
 

15-30.

Good player open-raises from EMP. Folded to me on the button w/ KQo. I consider folding, but instead 3-bet. Good or bad? Terrible SB cold-calls. EMP calls.

Flop KQJr

Checked to me. I bet. SB calls. EMP checkraises. I 3-bet. SB calls. EMP almost 4-bets, then just calls. I think he either has AK or AT.

Turn blank KQJ3r

Checked to me. I consider checking, but bet. Standard?

Re: KQo
 

Good player open-raises from EMP. Folded to me on the button w/ KQo. I consider folding, but instead 3-bet. Good or bad?

I think it's bad. To me, this is the textbook scenario for when you should fold.

The turn is tough (I think). It's hard to decide which side of the free card you are on (wanting one vs charging for one). I think you will be ahead of EMP more often than you are behind, though. SB's presence in the pot definitely makes me want to bet it.

Re: KQo
 

If this is a good player from EMP then I would be very cautious to enter this pot, unless you thought you could beat him with position. There aren't very many hands in the realm of playable hands that you have an advantage over in this situation, and there are way too many that crush you.

The flop is pretty nice for you, but his check-raise seems to suggest that he is not afraid of TPTK at the very least. I would probably speculate this to be a set of jacks or queens. I doubt he would check-raise AK here, but I don't know for sure. If he pegs you as a tight-aggressive, then he might not cap the flop so that he can check-raise you again on the turn. Or, he might give you credit for KK. At any rate I suppose you have to bet the turn here because you would be pissed to see an ace, nine, or ten on the turn if he is now ready to lay down a hand like AA or AK since he hasn't improved, and you have to charge the SB if he has 1 pair or any sort of draw. I imagine that he check-raised you again, and that he turned over 3 of a kind, jacks, but hey that's just my guess!
-James

Re: KQo
 

i opened your post dreading another ridiculous party short handed story - they cause me envy because i havent played there for a while

it occurs to me that the actual story looks a lot like a party 6 max story - ie your play would be standard if this was a 6 max game - in a full game it looks too aggressive - i would bet the turn - seems dumb to hit 2 pair and not bet the turn

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

Re: KQo
 

bet. If he has AT, call him down.

Re: KQo
 

Question 1: Bad.

If you won the hand, you dodged a bullet.

Bet the turn.

-Diplomat

Re: KQo
 

I would have folded before the flop against a good player. If you think about the hands that he's likely to openraise with, how many of them are you favored against going into the flop with KQo?

Re: KQo
 

Hi Ulysses:

You should fold before the flop.

best wishes,
Mason

Re: KQo
 

bet. If he has AT, call him down.

I disagree. If he has AT, fold the river unimproved.

GoT

Re: KQo
 

question 1:
if u do this all the time against a good player then it's a bad move;
if u only do it a small percentage of times, i think it's fine;
against weak tight EP raiser, fold 100%.

question 2:
the most u are representing at this time is probably a set of Kings. so if he has a set of Kings, he would check raise you again on turn 100%;
but if he has AK (highly doubt), he will just check call;
if he has QQ, JJ (highly probable) he will probably call down the whole way;
but QQQ might check raise you again because there is another player involved;
if he had ATs, you are surely getting check raised again;
and he most likely doesn't have QJ.

so given you are most likely beat, and SB will call a bet with any 10 on the turn anyway. plus SB improving to 2 pair is not a problem for you. i would recommend a CHECK .

Kenny

p.s. in the heat of battle, i'd probably bet.