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Terrabon98 11-30-2005 03:44 PM

Critique this AA hand for me
 
10/20 table, I am dealt red AA in CO. UTG, who sat down one orbit ago and hasn't really played a hand yet, is the villian in this hand.

PREFLOP: UTG raises, I 3-bet, everyone folds, he caps, I call

FLOP: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG bets, I raise, UTG calls

TURN: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG checks, I check

RIVER: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG bets, I call


Thoughts?

Spicymoose 11-30-2005 04:01 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
Tough one for me. I think I might call the flop, and raise the turn. Initially I wanted to bet the turn, but I realize there are plenty of hands that are now beating us. On the other hand, we are still ahead of a bunch, so maybe raise. We also have hidden outs if we are behind.

Gotta call the river.

ddubois 11-30-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
Board: Qh Jc 8h Kc

Hand 1: 62.9464 % 59.25% 03.69% { AdAh }
Hand 2: 37.0536 % 33.36% 03.69% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Hand 1: 58.2860 % 54.73% 03.55% { AdAh }
Hand 2: 41.7140 % 38.16% 03.55% { TT+, AQs+, AKo }

Hand 1: 56.5599 % 51.86% 04.70% { AdAh }
Hand 2: 43.4401 % 38.74% 04.70% { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

Hand 1: 48.9268 % 44.19% 04.73% { AdAh }
Hand 2: 51.0732 % 46.34% 04.73% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }

josh1122 11-30-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
I like the flop bet as this board was likely to hit him and he may 3bet allowing you to raise the turn.

I definately bet the turn, and then probably call down if he check/raises.

The way you played it the river is a must call.

Terrabon98 11-30-2005 04:22 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
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I like the flop bet as this board was likely to hit him and he may 3bet allowing you to raise the turn.

I definately bet the turn, and then probably call down if he check/raises.

The way you played it the river is a must call.

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Yeah, I didn't make this clear in my initial post, but my main concern is with the turn. Obviously that impacts how the rest of the hand is played, but there's no way I'm folding this river for one bet ever.

Zele 11-30-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
I don't find the turn anywhere near scary enough not to bet, but his river outs to a win or a split make checking plenty scary.

If you get CRed, I don't even consider folding without a very clear read.

Terrabon98 11-30-2005 04:28 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
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I don't find the turn anywhere near scary enough not to bet, but his river outs to a win or a split make checking plenty scary.

If you get CRed, I don't even consider folding without a very clear read.

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Interesting, I actually thought the exact opposite on this hand. I wasn't too worried about him catching cards if he was behind, and I was afraid I was well behind if he check-raised.

Let me ask you, what range of hands do you put him on? I put him on AA, KK, QQ, AKs, AKo, JJ, 1010, maybe AQs...I'm alraedy behind a majority of these combos, especially considering that I hold two of the aces

If I do get checkraised, you are right, I do have to call down. So I'm losing 3BB the majority of the time here if behind, which I think I am a majority of the time

Zele 11-30-2005 05:18 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
It's hard to give a range to a total unknown, but let's assume at least he's a somewhat rational non-LAG, and he has a similar opinion of you.

I'd add 99, any AQ, AJ and KQ (more weight on suited, but unsuited is far from unreasonable), and JTs.

I don't see this as a "way ahead/way behind" sitution. It's more like a "somewhat ahead/decently behind" situation.

mscags 11-30-2005 05:55 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
I like it. The only capping hand that you are beating is AK. AK is only drawing to the other two kings to beat you. Every other capping hand you have 6 outs to beat. I want to see the river here and getting checkraise on the turn here really sucks because honestly I don't know if I can call trying to suck out and then fold the river UI. I think this hand is played great in my opinion.

Scags

11-30-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Critique this AA hand for me
 
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Let me ask you, what range of hands do you put him on? I put him on AA, KK, QQ, AKs, AKo, JJ, 1010, maybe AQs...I'm alraedy behind a majority of these combos, especially considering that I hold two of the aces

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Correct me if I'm wrong because I don't know much about pokerstove, but if we take a look at the results ddubois gave us:

Hand 1: 58.2860 % 54.73% 03.55% { AdAh }
Hand 2: 41.7140 % 38.16% 03.55% { TT+, AQs+, AKo }

We have 58% equity here right? Doesn't this mean we gotta bet this turn?


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