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11-20-2005 09:38 PM

What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t1980)
MP1 (t2245)
MP2 (t845)
MP3 (t2035)
CO (t900)
Hero (t3165)
SB (t900)
BB (t1580)
UTG (t1350)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t150, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t150, Hero ???

dseiko 11-20-2005 09:42 PM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
I push. With 825 already in the pot im not dissapointed if thats all i get in this hand. Most likely i think one of the shorter stacks - MP2 or CO - will call

Slim Pickens 11-20-2005 09:51 PM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
Push. You want their money in before they have a chance to dislike their hands. You'll get called by AJ or worse and lower PP all the time. The implied odds on any other play aren't nearly as good.

11-20-2005 10:11 PM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
This is a definite push, rather than making it 800-900 to go? What if this was a $100 SnG?

800-900 would amount to ~50% of the stacks of most players in the hand - is this why pushing is better?

11-21-2005 02:41 AM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
I think a push here will likely result in it folding down to you. Had anyone showed any kind of strength, I think it would justify a push. As it stands, I'd probably bet between 700 and 900. With the stacks you're in against, you're more likely to get called by one of them (which I assume you want) if you raise it up instead of showing that absolute 100% resolve of an all in.

I've just found that the lower limit SNGs players on UB are more inclined to go all in under those circumstances. And if you just pick up the pot, that's great too.

My question is this - how is it 9 handed with the BB t150? Is it just a super tight table or was this an Ultra Turbo?

11-21-2005 03:01 AM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
push. QQ is a good hand, but even if you lose to something dumb, you still have ~1800 left behind. if you made it like 1000 to go, you're still not folding to a MP all in. get your money in now.

11-21-2005 03:06 AM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
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push. QQ is a good hand, but even if you lose to something dumb, you still have ~1800 left behind. if you made it like 1000 to go, you're still not folding to a MP all in. get your money in now.

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I think a more subtle approach will get more chips into the middle here. Pushing all in is a little too brute force in my opinion.

Slim Pickens 11-21-2005 03:07 AM

Re: What to do with QQ here $5.50
 
Well, no one in the hand has more than 1300 so to save time on the slider bar I guess you could move it only partway over...

With the blinds this high and no one else in the hand with over 10BB, there's very little that can go right from dorking around with less than all-in raises.

(Put another big stack in there and things start to change.)


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