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10-22-2005 03:14 AM

river fold
 
I have Aks and raise after very weak limper, I get 3bet by a slightly agro TAG in SB 20/13/2.12 weak limper calls and I cap.

Flop comes AQ9 2 suited none of mine. TAG bets we both call.

Turn comes an Ace TAG bets we both call. (I probably should have raised here).

River comes J TAG checks weak limper checks I bet TAG checkraises??? I fold.

My thinking is that he surely knows that I have either KK or AK? right and that I probably wouldnt fold AK but if I had KK its unlikely that he'd have a hand that doesnt beat me here.

He also knows that I'd value bet these hands.

Argh what do you guys think?

CardSharpCook 10-22-2005 03:46 AM

Re: river fold
 
heh, well, I'd bet dollars to donunts that you've lost this hand, but just how sure are you? I call this down. Maybe he hit the donk button on his computer.

scott8 10-22-2005 04:07 AM

Re: river fold
 
Does that mean that you bet dollars and if you win you get donuts??

Or are you betting both the dollar and the donut?

So confusing.

ALL1N 10-22-2005 04:14 AM

Re: river fold
 
If you're not willing to raise turn (regardless of the second A), raise the flop and let SB 3-bet his AK to protect both of you.

edit-actually I think you played it fine.

CardSharpCook 10-22-2005 05:38 AM

Re: river fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
Does that mean that you bet dollars and if you win you get donuts??

Or are you betting both the dollar and the donut?

So confusing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Every donut you're willing to put up, I'll match it with a dollar. That's how confident I am!

flawless_victory 10-22-2005 05:47 AM

Re: river fold
 
i think you played this hand pretty damn good.

flawless_victory 10-22-2005 05:48 AM

Re: river fold
 
BTW/ that river fold is sick... really nice laydown. im serious.

mc1023 10-22-2005 08:20 AM

Re: river fold
 
the way this hand played out, I think the river fold is okay.

but you should've raised the flop here and see where your at, can't instantly just assume he has AQ or QQ. Pop him once and find out where your at.

10-22-2005 01:03 PM

Re: river fold
 
there is no way in hell you made this fold. period.

elindauer 10-22-2005 01:36 PM

Re: river fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
My thinking is that he surely knows that I have either KK or AK?

[/ QUOTE ]

You need to work on your, what is it called, reverse hand reading? You capped preflop but then just called the flop and just called the turn. Why would he think you have AK?

What does he have? Hmmm... he could be on a move w/ TT, figuring that you don't obviously don't have a strong hand from your turn play and that he can take this big pot down with a raise. He could have AK. Really, I'm just making things up though, because I don't know what he could possibly hold to play this way. It's just an unusual spot for a checkraise.

You have played your hand very deceptively. Don't fold.

-Eric


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