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Garland 10-15-2005 03:56 PM

BB special?
 
Opponent is very loose. He has been running really hot with crap cards, and he's shown the ability to bluff a lot. He called my preflop raise with 85o vs my AA and flopped trips. I should add that villian has made a few fishy calls.

How do you handle this situation?

Garland

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (8 handed) converter

CO ($1043.40)
Button ($318.70)
SB ($768)
Garland ($642)
UTG ($449.10)
UTG+1 ($897.05)
MP1 ($327.65)
MP2 ($615)

Preflop: Garland is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $6, CO calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Garland checks.

Flop: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Garland checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($21) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Garland checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: ($21) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Garland bets $13</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, Garland ???

flawless_victory 10-15-2005 03:58 PM

Re: BB special?
 
by calling, obviously.

SlyAK 10-15-2005 04:17 PM

Re: BB special?
 
Obviously call? Why not re-raise to $250, hero has the 2nd nuts here....

Sly

JKratzer 10-15-2005 04:33 PM

Re: BB special?
 
I'd just call. Villian's range could be anything, I'd guess here he either has the nuts and you're beat, or he's bluffing and won't call any more. The big overbet against someone in the bb looks like he's hoping you have something to pay off his straight. My 2 cents, difficult decision against this opponnet.

kagame 10-15-2005 04:43 PM

Re: BB special?
 
i just called today with the 2nd nut straight on a 4 card straighted board, and the guy had a set

i left about half his stack i could have taken...

iceman5 10-15-2005 04:47 PM

Re: BB special?
 
Against a guy like this, Im reraising. I like $250

Rocaix 10-15-2005 04:51 PM

Re: BB special?
 
If he's really that bad, I would 3-bet here and consider calling a push. I've seen a lot of donkeys slow play a set or big two pair down to the river like this and then massively overplay the river. I think his hand range is much wider than just 86 or a bluff here on the river.

10-15-2005 05:00 PM

Re: BB special?
 
If he's such a fish, he'd probably play two pair or a set identically, and would definitely call a reraise on the river with one of these hands.

You're only worried about one hand, when he could be holding a fairly wide range of hands that he probably thinks are unbeatable. I'd say this is an easy reraise. If he comes back over the top, then perhaps just call, but don't just flat call one raise with the second nuts in this situation.

gol4pro 10-15-2005 05:55 PM

Re: BB special?
 
If villian has a wide hand range here, you're losing an astronomical amount of value by calling his raise.

Call if you hate money-- you're losing to exactly 1 hand.

Garland 10-16-2005 02:29 PM

Results and thoughts...
 
Against most opponents I would have flat called, but this guy was pretty loose/fishy. However, he hasn't been known to slow play hands either, so I had to put him on something that he likes that he could beat. Well, I reraised, he put me all-in and I called. He had the nuts.

Can I fold to his push?

Thanks for your thoughts?

Garland

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($1043.40)</font>
Button ($318.70)
SB ($768)
<font color="#C00000">Garland ($642)</font>
UTG ($449.10)
UTG+1 ($897.05)
MP1 ($327.65)
MP2 ($615)

Preflop: Garland is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $6, CO calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Garland checks.

Flop: ($21) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Garland checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($21) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Garland checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: ($21) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Garland bets $13</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $84</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises to $288</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1037.4</font>, Garland calls $348 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1694.40

Results below:
Garland has 6d 3c (straight, seven high).
CO has 8d 6s (straight, eight high).
Outcome: CO wins $1694.40.


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