88
 

What to do...on the flop i was planning a check raise but once the button raises i thought about a raise to clean the pot up, but figured i'd go for overcalls and the hand *may* get raised behind me anyway. One of the many bad turn cards for me, so i check and hope to fill up (hopefully a club)

The players are all typical party 2/4 guys.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

River: (17.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Re: 88
 

I think you perhaps needed to be a little more passive here, perhaps a check/fold on the turn would be acceptable.

Re: 88
 

Its funny you said that...was thinking someone had the st8 on the flop and should have maybe folded there!!!

Re: 88
 

God, you've got the entire field along for the ride - 3-bet the flop.

Re: 88
 

how many typical party players are calling a 3bet c/r? also if the whole field calls the raise i have some chance that i can trap then for more bets on the turn, should a safe card fall.

Re: 88
 

Wow, you flopped top set and didn't bet or raise once. You're awesome!

Re: 88
 

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how many typical party players are calling a 3bet c/r?

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At Party 2/4? Probably all of them.

Re: 88
 

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I think you perhaps needed to be a little more passive here, perhaps a check/fold on the turn would be acceptable.

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CLEARY the correct play is to open fold the flop.

Re: 88
 

3 bet the flop.

Most will call, and you have massive equity.

Re: 88
 

3 betting the flop would be the line i take the most often here...i was thinking about maybe trying to extract a little more by taking a fancy line.

the way the hand played out in my head before the cards fell was... top set check/raise the flop and trap the field for 2 then lead the turn. when the button raises i thought either three bet and hope to blow the field out and then make $$$ from one player and win the pot a hugh % of the time or flat call and hope that everyone comes along as i have a hugh equity and dont want people to fold. I want them to call and make a better second best hand and hopefully trap a few more people on the turn. Its a higher risk...but is it worth it?