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1C5 01-31-2005 06:40 PM

Is this the worst fold ever?
 
Party 10+1, would this be an auto call for you? I would have called, had my finger on the button but then the next guy calls him ahead of me. I folded. What would you have done? What if the 2nd guy folded, then would that have changed your decision?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (7 handed) converter

UTG (t625)
MP1 (t845)
MP2 (t850)
CO (t650)
Button (t2840)
Hero (t685)
BB (t1505)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t15, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t35, MP2 calls t35.

Flop: (t165) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t795 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls t795, Hero folds.

Turn: (t1880) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1880) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1880

Unarmed 01-31-2005 06:50 PM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
Not horrible.
MP1 might be drawing but MP2 isn't. You might get shown KQ/QJ here a small percentage of the time but its a good laydown IMO.

Also, if you're going to raise here PF (and I wouldn't) you have to raise more IMO.

willperkins 01-31-2005 06:54 PM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
I would fold. While you are getting about 3.6 to 1 pot odds to call with TPTK, this hand screams of trips. One of these two has either 88 or 22 and you are down to a two outer and there is also a chance for a flush draw (which you can not hit).

IMHO

adanthar 01-31-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
Not great but not horrible. At a 10+1 I'd call, though.

gh9801 02-01-2005 12:07 AM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
Call. The only hand that beats you at the moment is a set, and it's very likely you're against a draw and pair of queens with worse kicker.

microbet 02-01-2005 02:09 AM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
Seems like most of the time you are beat, but there are some crazy games and from the stacks the button and the BB have in the first level this looks like a wild one. In a crazy game it might be 50/50 or a little less to triple up. In a tight game you could almost be sure there was a set or overpair.

If MP2 had done anything crazy I probably call. If they both had, then I call for sure.

Mr_J 02-01-2005 02:12 AM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
No it isn't. I once folded TT with a KKT flop. I knew one of he other guys in the hand had a K (K6 what a surprise), he raised a nice chunk, and I folded thinking I only had the set [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Soon as I pressed fold I knew what I'd done. Will NEVER make that mistake again.

It doesn't get much worse than that. Maybe folding AA when AAx flops and the other guy pushes trying to bluff.

Daliman 02-01-2005 02:32 AM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
No it isn't. I once folded TT with a KKT flop. I knew one of he other guys in the hand had a K (K6 what a surprise), he raised a nice chunk, and I folded thinking I only had the set [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Soon as I pressed fold I knew what I'd done. Will NEVER make that mistake again.

It doesn't get much worse than that. Maybe folding AA when AAx flops and the other guy pushes trying to bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]

When will it end......

Mr_J 02-01-2005 02:39 AM

Re: Is this the worst fold ever?
 
I really don't know what I was thinking when I did that. Doesn't matter it's not happening again.


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