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Schizo 12-23-2004 01:41 AM

Flop a 4 flush, should I of called? I have 72s!
 
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

I'm getting the odds to call if my flush is good, but with all these people, I am worried it may not be good.

bdk3clash 12-23-2004 01:59 AM

Re: Flop a 4 flush, should I of called? I have 72s!
 
This is all fine. You can worry about whether your flush is any good when you get 3-bet on the river or whatever.

EDIT: I'm undecided about your flop bet, but I'm probably results oriented because it got raised by someone in early-ish position, which isn't really what you wanted to happen.

Richard Berg 12-23-2004 02:05 AM

Re: Flop a 4 flush, should I of called? I have 72s!
 
Flop bet looks bad in retrospect but that's results-oriented as bd3 said. I do think checking is better; no chance that juicy flop will be checked around in a family pot, and you have neither the position nor the cards to make a move on the field.

I don't like the turn call. 9.5:2 is pretty thin to begin with -- now subtract off the rake, the fact that both villians got aggressive when the board paired, the chance it will be 3-bet behind you, and the low rank of your flush cards.

Alexthegreat 12-23-2004 02:07 AM

Re: Flop a 4 flush, should I of called? I have 72s!
 
check raise the flop, check raise the turn if you miss...make your flush on the river and check raise again

It's awesome

actually, just check-call the turn, it's better....

bdk3clash 12-23-2004 02:09 AM

Re: Flop a 4 flush, should I of called? I have 72s!
 
The texture of this board makes it unlikely that someone is now full, though I might be cautious if the river was the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I think you are in a good position to collect around 2 bets on the river if you hit your flush, so I think you have an easy turn call.

Obviously the action here should have been stopped on the turn decision once UTG+1 raises, since I know that UTG doesn't 3-bet.

Schizo 12-23-2004 02:32 AM

Re: Flop a 4 flush, should I of called? I have 72s!
 
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The texture of this board makes it unlikely that someone is now full, though I might be cautious if the river was the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

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Why? Nobody raised PF.

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I think you are in a good position to collect around 2 bets on the river if you hit your flush, so I think you have an easy turn call.


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Even considering Richard Berg's comments on the turn?

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Obviously the action here should have been stopped on the turn decision once UTG+1 raises, since I know that UTG doesn't 3-bet.

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How do you know this?

No sign of KK, and QQ. But K6 and Q6 are possible, but unlikely. Is this your reasoning?


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