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slickpoppa 09-21-2004 12:49 PM

For all you David Williams Haters:
 
Ok, he got a little lucky at the WSOP and made some questionable plays, but I still think people have been overly critical of him. Look who's #2 in chips at the Borgata:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_tour...p?event_id=587

Either he's the luckiest SOB ever or he's got some game.

krille 09-21-2004 12:52 PM

Re: For all you David Williams Haters:
 
Yeah I was VERY surprised to see him up there

tdomeski 09-21-2004 12:57 PM

Hmmmm. . . .
 
Why isn't he in class?

By the way, I'm rooting for Josh.

Ghazban 09-21-2004 12:58 PM

Re: For all you David Williams Haters:
 
Just because people criticized a few specific hands in the televised portion of the main event doesn't mean everybody here thinks he's a total hack who can't play poker. Everybody makes bad plays from time to time; fortunately, most of us don't have TV cameras hovering when we make them. I still think he played the 55 horribly but by no means does that imply that I think he's a horrible poker player. Frankly, I haven't seen enough of his play to say anything one way or the other. If I had to say anything, I'd guess he must at least be pretty good to have the success he's had but, beyond that, I won't make any kind of general "he's great" or "he sucks" comments because I don't have enough information.

slickpoppa 09-21-2004 01:04 PM

Re: For all you David Williams Haters:
 
I'm not saying that everyone who criticized his play thinks he is a complete hack. Nevertheless, there were people in some of the threads about his plays who were saying things along the lines of: "How the hell did this guy get to the final table. He can't play for sh*t."
I'm just trying to show some evidence that he might not be as bad as the ESPN coverage made him out to be.

Desdia72 09-21-2004 01:12 PM

not to take anything from Phil Ivey, but i personally
 
hope David wins, although i doubt it. if David does'nt win, i'm pulling for Phil.

Jwasnock 09-21-2004 01:41 PM

Re: Hmmmm. . . .
 
Josh Arieh is at it again in 7th place...

Unfortunately, I think we'll be seeing more of Josh Arieh. For as much of an A-hole as he came off at the WSOP, I have to admit, I was very impressed by his play. He almost always put his money in as a favorite and was outdrawn quite often. He always seemed to recover pretty quickly and his chip count moved right back up. I thought his laydown of the King high flush he hit on the river against Murphy was probably most impressive. Great read.

His comments to Williams after he was busted out in 3rd really bugged me. After Raymer congratulated him and complimented him, telling him he was the toughest competitor he had faced, Josh went over and whispered to Williams, "bust this M.....F.....!" What was that all about? No class.

SossMan 09-21-2004 01:41 PM

Re: For all you David Williams Haters:
 
I'm just trying to show some evidence

being 2nd in chips midway through a tournament in hardly "evidence".
I have no opinion of his play since I have never played with him.

Easy E 09-21-2004 01:46 PM

I thought that the whole Paul Phillips thread
 
was prefaced around the central point that short term results in tournaments are SO much based on luck that we can't determine anything from one or two tournaments????

slickpoppa 09-21-2004 01:51 PM

Re: For all you David Williams Haters:
 
The tournament started with over 300 people and now it's down to less than thirty, so it's a little bit later than midway through the tournament.
And are you saying that it's incorrect to have an opinion about a player unless you have sat down and played against him? I think that Doyle Brunson is pretty good, but I've never played against him. What a simpleton I am.


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