What do Villains have...
 

...and where do I sit in this hand? Strange play from MP2.

MP2: VP$IP-61.22 LPP
CO (FISH): VP$IP:92.31 LPP

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (11 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

Re: What do Villains have...
 

Hmmm... AF's would help here. Could be a flopped set, but could also be an over-aggressive AQ, KQ or maybe even QJs(unlikely). AF's are pretty important here I think. If they are really low for MP2, then it looks like maybe a flopped set and your line looks very good. If say, much over 1, I cap the turn and call if MP2 leads. I am not too worried about the other guy as he appears to suck [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Re: What do Villains have...
 

The only thing on your mind to worry about is a set of 8's or 2's which isn't that unlikely. You want to get your value though out of this bad player especially if he's 3-betting you on the [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw.

So, I play it the same way. Cap for value especially since there's no threat of being re-raised on the turn. Call if he leads out the river, especially after the 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] but if he checks then bet.

Re: What do Villains have...
 

I think Villan has a sooted Q that 2 paired on the flop, Q8s or Q2s, Q8s more likely, IMHO. I don't think he's on the flush draw, because his turn action doesn't indicate this. I think you can Cap this Turn.

The river also doesn't scare me b/c I don't think he has the [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw, I raise and call a 3-bet here.

But I finished down 30 BB last night...so take my advice for what it's worth.

Edit: Forgot about the fish. He plays every hand, god knows what he has. I'm thinking A8 or A2 and was hoping to spike 2 pair.

Re: What do Villains have...
 

MP2: 88 would be my best guess, mabye KQ.
CO: looks like they play every single hand (missing VPIP is from the big blind). They could have anything at all. I'd guess a Q with a small kicker - mabye he had Q7 and hit two pair on the river. Mabue an 8 or 2 with a high kicker. Who knows?

Generally, when a loose player goes aggro on you, they've got a strong hand.

Re: What do Villains have...
 

MP2 has 22
CO has Q8 or 2 diamonds.

-d

Re: What do Villains have...
 

I would 3-bet the flop, I'll lead the turn (capped or not on the flop) and call down if raised.

Re: What do Villains have...
 

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Hmmm... AF's would help here. Could be a flopped set, but could also be an over-aggressive AQ, KQ or maybe even QJs(unlikely). AF's are pretty important here I think. If they are really low for MP2, then it looks like maybe a flopped set and your line looks very good. If say, much over 1, I cap the turn and call if MP2 leads.

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AF numbers for MP2 0.60 (w/out preflop actions of course). Thats why I slowed down and didnt 3-bet on the flop or cap on the turn. My read was flopped a set. Ill post results in a few.

Re: What do Villains have...
 

Reeks of a made set. Not QQ because he reraises preflop. I guess 88 or 22.

Re: What do Villains have...
 

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qc Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
MP2 has As Kh (one pair, kings).
CO has Jd 5c (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins 20.50 BB. </font>