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kongo_totte 10-05-2005 05:32 PM

A A.
 
Just sat down. Villian is completely unknown.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP1 ($187)
MP2 ($305.72)
MP3 ($226.25)
CO ($184)
Hero ($197)
SB ($176.60)
BB ($155.90)
UTG ($30)
UTG+1 ($160.70)
UTG+2 ($244.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB (poster) calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $11</font>, Hero calls $11.

Turn: ($38) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $27</font>, Hero calls $27.

River: ($92) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, SB check-raises all in for $90 more.

1) Do you bet the river.
2) Do you call the check-raise?

JeanieJ 10-05-2005 05:38 PM

Re: A A.
 
Why not raise the flop or turn?

kongo_totte 10-05-2005 05:40 PM

Re: A A.
 
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Why not raise the flop or turn?

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The board is pretty safe on flop, figured I was way ahead or way behind and wanted to keep him fighting my "steal".

guaranteedBluff 10-05-2005 05:41 PM

Re: A A.
 
First off, I raise this flop to $40 - get some information while its still cheap!

1) check behind
2) not sure about the river... You are getting good odds but I don't see him making this move with just an overpair... (KK or QQ) --- so I suppose I lay it down reluctantly.

Hattifnatt 10-05-2005 05:43 PM

Re: A A.
 
River bet looks good, clear fold to the CR though.

wdeadwyler 10-05-2005 05:53 PM

Re: A A.
 
There are only 3 hands I see him playing this way, the first one is something like A5s, where he leads into your "missed overcards" prices himself in on the turn, makes his flush and decides c/r river.

Secondly, he might have flopped a set, and is going for the sexy, even if he has no idea what that is.

Lastly, he has JJ and spikes his set on the river.

I value bet the river, and in the heat of the moment, call the c/r but in hindsight, I really can't see him c/r anything you beat here. Maybe qq?? But why?? This whole hand reeks of "but why". I cant think of a hand that you are beating that "should" take this line, but I can definately see a donk doing this with his made hand. I vote river fold, and I also like the value bet.

FYI if I call this flop bet I am raising the turn, if he calls my turn raise I strongly consider checking behind.

Malachii 10-05-2005 06:22 PM

Re: A A.
 
Flop is okay. The possible OESD might make this a raise, but calling is alright. River bet is okay, but you must fold to the checkraise.

Riposte 10-05-2005 06:27 PM

Re: A A.
 
Love your posts kongo... I always learn something.

I like your play. I wouldn't raise the flop or turn either. It's clearly a WA/WB scenario (ok maybe maybe he has a straight draw).

On the river, I think you have to fold. He's just showing way too much strength. But you always surprise me with your analyses so I could be wrong.

xorbie 10-05-2005 06:38 PM

Re: A A.
 
Check behind on the river.

kongo_totte 10-05-2005 06:38 PM

Re: A A.
 
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On the river, I think you have to fold. He's just showing way too much strength. But you always surprise me with your analyses so I could be wrong.

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You are not wrong, you are very right. The river is a standard fold IMO. Unfortunaly, I suck at poker and called.


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