Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

Did markevil overplay his Jacks?

***** Hand History for Game 2400394030 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14129763 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, July 21, 16:47:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 11608 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Lintje ( $540 )
Seat 2: mbtmsu ( $840 )
Seat 3: kingclover1 ( $570 )
Seat 4: FerretBall ( $1185 )
Seat 5: Tomenator ( $850 )
Seat 7: markevil ( $1370 )
Seat 9: actionjacks1 ( $1905 )
Seat 6: HERO ( $740 )
Trny:14129763 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3c 3s ]
markevil raises [100].
actionjacks1 folds.
Lintje calls [100].
mbtmsu folds.
kingclover1 folds.
FerretBall calls [100].
Tomenator is all-In [835]
HERO folds.
markevil is all-In [1270]
Lintje is all-In [440]
FerretBall folds.

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

I would have made the call.

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

you'd call all-in with 33??

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

No, my 33 was a difficult fold, but after seing the action, i figured someone probably had me beat. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Actually I am interested only in the JJ action, my play is not pertinent to this hand.

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

Your 33 fold was dificult? You need to fold pocket pairs when you're calling pushes... his push was fine, as long as he knew that limpers doesn't mean AA/KK. If i was him, i'd be pushign that all day at the $55's.

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

yes

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

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Your 33 fold was dificult? You need to fold pocket pairs when you're calling pushes... his push was fine, as long as he knew that limpers doesn't mean AA/KK. If i was him, i'd be pushign that all day at the $55's.

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There were no limpers, he raised to 100 UTG, then someone else pushed and he pushed over the top.

Overplayed by a mile, in my opinion.

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

I think this is closer than people are giving it credit for.

A lot of players won't push AA here becasue they want to get action and will instead make it like 300-400 to get some calls. Same thing with KK to a lessor extent.

If you discount the chances of AA/KK a little and still only have Tom push with AA-JJ/AK then the odds are pretty much there for a call. If there is any chance he would come over the top with TT or AQs then your odds are more than good enough. Since he will still have a playable stack of 520 if he loses its really a judgement call on what the all-in player will make this play with. Its certainly not an autofold.

Re: Was his JJ push stupid, or is it just me?
 

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There were no limpers, he raised to 100 UTG, then someone else pushed and he pushed over the top.

Overplayed by a mile, in my opinion.

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There is nothing wrong with the initial raise.