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Vee Quiva 08-03-2005 12:08 PM

Trouble with 10-10
 
Comments on all streets appreciated. Blinds were 25-50 in Party $55 SNG.

NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:13327390 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Wednesday, June 22, 23:03:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 11135 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: larryvq ( $1655 )
Seat 2: anrk10 ( $1800 )
Seat 3: smoovv ( $1220 )
Seat 5: jetfan6232 ( $1400 )
Seat 8: MisterJD ( $1040 )
Seat 9: HarleyGuy29 ( $2885 )
Trny:13327390 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to larryvq [ Th Td ]
>You have options at Three-Table(373643) Table #1 Table!.
anrk10 calls [50].
smoovv folds.
jetfan6232 calls [50].
MisterJD folds.
HarleyGuy29 calls [25].
larryvq checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 2c, 9h ]
HarleyGuy29 checks.
larryvq bets [100].
anrk10 calls [100].
jetfan6232 folds.
HarleyGuy29 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
larryvq checks.
anrk10 bets [200].
>You have options at Three-Table(373643) Table #1 Table!.
larryvq raises [600].
anrk10 raises [1300].
larryvq folds.

tigerite 08-03-2005 12:10 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
I'd have raised preflop from the blinds with TT. It's a hand that needs protecting and you'll be out of position for the rest of the play.

Vee Quiva 08-03-2005 12:15 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
should i have bet the pot on the flop?

tigerite 08-03-2005 12:17 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
No 2/3rds is fine, even 1/2 if you want, no draws out there that I can see.

45suited 08-03-2005 12:17 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
Okay, I can see checking pre-flop (although I would raise). But the flop is great but you only put a small bet out there. Then when an overcard comes, you want to make the pot big? And you only have two outs.

I don't understand your play at all! Once you decided to check pre-flop, you need to play a small pot unless you have a very strong hand. You kept the pot small up until the point that your hand was likely beaten.

Why make poker so complicated?

BTW, if I knew that the players yet to act were aggressive, I'm checkraising the flop. Otherwise, I'm betting more than 100.

DarrenX 08-03-2005 12:22 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
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I'd have raised preflop from the blinds with TT. It's a hand that needs protecting and you'll be out of position for the rest of the play.

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I'll do this 90% of the time. The 10% where I check preflop, I bet 3/4 pot on the flop as opposed to 1/2, slow down to a caller (especially the UTG limper),and fold to a raiser.

08-03-2005 12:25 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
I have to agree with 45 suited. You must raise this preflop when there is 200 in dead money out there and you are sitting on 1010 with poor position. I'd raise to 200 or 250. This way, you either take the pot or if called are in great shape to bet out at a large pot with an overpair on the flop. Having kept the pot small when you likely had the best of it, I don't know why you want to commit so many chips when you are likely beat and are at least uncomfortable. Mainly, need to play more aggressively preflop and on flop (flops like that don't come often for 10 10, JJ, etc.)

45suited 08-03-2005 12:27 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
I just want to add that I don't think checking pre-flop is bad. I'd do it myself sometimes. But after the OP decided to check, I think that he butchered the hand badly.

But checking pre-flop is fine IMO.

AbelM 08-03-2005 12:34 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
preflop: I would've raised to ~200 for value and to thin the field.

flop: Maybe a bit more, again for value but also because with the half potbet you might induce someone making a play.

turn: Very weak check. What's even worse is the check-raise, this just doesn't make any sense to me...just call him down.
I would've bet about 200~250, for several reasons.

AbelM 08-03-2005 12:36 PM

Re: Trouble with 10-10
 
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But checking pre-flop is fine IMO.

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Why?


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