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UCF THAYER 10-27-2004 09:26 PM

Aces vs. Joker
 
In holdem, which hand wins more headsup.
Joker 2, or Ace Ace?

UCF THAYER 10-28-2004 06:02 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
Does anyone know the answer?
What are the %'s?
How would one figure out the answer?

Lost Wages 10-28-2004 06:24 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
Does anyone know the answer?

No, because you don't use a joker in hold'em.

How would one figure out the answer?

You would use a showdown calculator like Twodimes or PokerStove only they don't have the option to use a joker because, well, you don't use a joker in hold'em. I assume that you are talking about a home game.

Lost Wages

UCF THAYER 10-28-2004 07:10 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
I'm just asking a theoretical question, and wondering how maybe one would figure it out.
It started with a debate with a friend of mine who said definately the joker and a 2 hand would win by far, and i wasn't so sure. After thinking about it for awhile, i've come to think aa is better slightly.

Stork 10-28-2004 07:37 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
I haven't done any calculations, but it seems like the aces would be a little better.

UCF THAYER 10-28-2004 08:51 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
just dealt out 40 hands real quick.
Joker hand won 31-9.
Yikes, my thinking appears to be way off...

Stork 10-28-2004 09:36 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
40 hands isn't exactly note-worthy.

UCF THAYER 10-28-2004 09:44 PM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
agreed, but still, it surprised me.

Alex Levin 10-29-2004 12:11 AM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
The board pairs about 50% of the time by the river. Any time that happens, J2 will almost always win because they'll have trips vs. two pair. Plus any time a 2, any 4 to a straight, and any 4 to a flush (3 if it matches the suit of the 2) it wins also. I don't know how often that is, but I would think it is pretty often. Unless, AA hits a set (about 20% of the time), J2 is a huge favorite.

Ogre 10-29-2004 01:58 AM

Re: Aces vs. Joker
 
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just dealt out 40 hands real quick.
Joker hand won 31-9.
Yikes, my thinking appears to be way off...

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NICE! Only about 999,960 more hands to go to find some true results, keep up the good work!!


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