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Pil Sung Do 06-07-2005 09:55 PM

When things are going good
 
I've been doing pretty well at this table. I feel as though I'm in control of the entire table. UTG seems ok, but he doesn't scare me. UTG +1 is tighter and I am cautious with him. Player to my right is loose passive. SB is the best player (other than me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) Tight, aggressive. BB is quiet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t1935)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t2030)</font>
MP (t1615)
CO (t1490)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t3800)</font>
SB (t1130)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t50, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t225) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t50</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, BB folds, UTG calls t350, CO calls t350.

Turn: (t1425) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1050</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1580</font>, CO folds, Hero calls t530.

River: (t4585) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t4585

How did I do? And what does UTG have?

lastchance 06-07-2005 09:57 PM

Re: When things are going good
 
I raise to t300 not t400. I fold preflop, and I'm losing my stack if a straight beats top two pair on the turn.

Pil Sung Do 06-07-2005 11:10 PM

Re: When things are going good
 
I raise to t300 not t400.

Normally, I would but I thought that t300 would encourage callers more than I really wanted. You see that t400 still brought 2 callers.

lastchance 06-07-2005 11:27 PM

Re: When things are going good
 
Meh. Don't see what else you can do to with two pair here.

R_Brite_TDX 06-07-2005 11:56 PM

Re: When things are going good
 
Well Its tough to put utg on a hand because he is just calling your flop bet. If he seems ok then he isnt an idiot so I think we can rule out any huge hands because that is a pretty scary board for a big pocket pair. He may just be holding onto his aq or ak but I dont know why he would reraise on the turn with that. I am thinking along the lines of 5 9 or something of the sort...maybe 9 10 because then maybe he is think ok well I have top pair and a possible inside straight draw so lets just see what comes on the turn and then I will make my move. After seeing the 4 drop I think he is thinking his top pair will be good here although If it was me I would have never called that flop bet with that hand....so who knows...I guess its looking more like he flopped the straight.

Rex Ruthless 06-08-2005 12:08 AM

Re: When things are going good
 
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How did I do? And what does UTG have?

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I fold 67o. Why waste chips even in position with that hand?
Great flop though. UTG has T8 (sooooted I hope for his sake)??? Or a set???

adanthar 06-08-2005 12:13 AM

Re: When things are going good
 
All right, this hand should generate more discussion than the rank and file hands usually get so let me start off with this:

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I fold preflop

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Folding preflop sucks.

Let's discuss.

Rex Ruthless 06-08-2005 12:28 AM

Re: When things are going good
 
I'll limp and even call a small raise if it's a suited connector since you add the flush possibility to the mix. With an unsuited connector though your best hopes are the straight draw or 2pair flop. I'd prefer to save those chips for a better chance later.

Matt Walker 06-08-2005 01:19 AM

Re: When things are going good
 
[ QUOTE ]
All right, this hand should generate more discussion than the rank and file hands usually get so let me start off with this:

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I fold preflop

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Folding preflop sucks.

Let's discuss.

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OK I'll bite. I can see why for you and select other top players/posters you might be missing out on a slightly +EV situation by folding, but are you suggesting that this is a clear call for everyone on this forum even if their post flop skills aren't as good as yours?

How is the number and position of the limpers affecting this decision? Suppose there were only one limper do you sitll call and does it matter if he is UTG or in CO?

lastchance 06-08-2005 01:22 AM

Re: When things are going good
 
Explain. 67o is a truly horrendous hand, no suitedness.

True, you have 40x BB, but the limpers in front of you only have 20x... Plus, I suck playing postflop. (yeah)...


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