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Poop4Munny 07-06-2005 06:42 PM

fold KAs Post Flop
 
any opinions on this fold?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, Hero folds.

River: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 8 BB

hemstock 07-06-2005 06:46 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
Call. You are getting 7 to 1 on your money.

Vasquez 07-06-2005 06:49 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
First the pot is small you arent getting the price to call. Two players loved that turn card.The turn brought us the CLUB so you could also be drawing to 4 outs max not to mention if someone has KQ or AQ you are i neven worse shape. Good fold bad turn card for you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] .

KingOtter 07-06-2005 06:50 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
Plenty of odds to call, and nothing is showing that a high pair won't win.

KO

Vasquez 07-06-2005 06:50 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
hemstock how do you call? Some of your outs could be dead? you are getting 7-1. You only have 6 outs which dont count as full outs. So you probably have 3 outs max. We arent getting the 15-1

hemstock 07-06-2005 06:54 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
Could be...
but since the flop came rainbow i wouldnt put them on a flush draw.

KingOtter 07-06-2005 06:55 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
First the pot is small you arent getting the price to call. Two players loved that turn card.The turn brought us the CLUB so you could also be drawing to 4 outs max not to mention if someone has KQ or AQ you are i neven worse shape. Good fold bad turn card for you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] .

[/ QUOTE ]

He's getting 8-1. Pure outs would be 6.7-1. Discount plus implied odds make it a close call... I probably would have called.

Chances of being dominated are there, by someone playing Ax or Kx, but I still think it's close. I probably would have called.

KO

Greg J 07-06-2005 07:04 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
In my estimation, calling on the turn is slightly less than break even. You are getting 8:1. 6 outs is too generous, since you can make yr hand and still loose. But even considering you can check/fold UI the implied odds don't quite it worth the call.

In the heat of battle, I make this call closing the action. Here where I can study the hand, I think you made a good fold. I don't think making this call would be a huge money loser for you in the long run.

beset7 07-06-2005 07:08 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
Looks fairly standard to me.

Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! 07-06-2005 08:55 PM

Re: fold KAs Post Flop
 
i fold here.


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