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sublime 06-29-2005 05:35 PM

Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
I play anywhere from 4-7 tables on two 2001's. my wrist hurts and my elbow hurts when i play for any significant amount of time. my monitor setup is a slight v shape probably about 18 inches from the fronnt edge of my desk.

okay so now you have all the variables so help me. i suppose my main questions are:

is there something I can get from my elbow so when its rested on desk it doesn't hurt? or is it not good to elevate it?

wrist guard? which one? the best please.

i use a logitech mouse and one of those pads with the jelly thing (which i find awkward to rest my hand on BTW and usually don't use)

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Zelcious 06-29-2005 05:51 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
Maybe you should buy a powerball and work up your strength. I heard its good for mouse arm. Dunno if its true though.

bkholdem 06-29-2005 05:59 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
I only multi table 4 on my laptop but I have a sweet 'workstation'. I have the laptop on the end table and play while laying down on my side on the couch. The TV is also in the background. Your in your own home. Why work sitting down when you can work lying down? lol.

NoTalent 06-29-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
Just like your title, it sounds like Carpal Tunnel. This is serious, and I expect many online players to develop it. Sitting at your desk mousing for 8 hours a day is not healthy.

I would recommend using "mouseless poker" suggestions set up for your multi-tabling that you do. keep your wrist straight and try to stretch and take breaks if possible.

I don't play that much, and when I do I usually 4 table. I have a numpad only setup with the mouseless poker and I can play without pain for 6 hours.

edit:
Here was the original thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=2045207

sublime 06-29-2005 06:10 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
yeah, i tried the mouseless poker and just havemt developed the 'feel' for it. however, i dont want to be a gimp either. maybe i can tinker with the mouseless setting enough to fit my comfort zone.

TStoneMBD 06-29-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
do my setup, you wont regret it.

buy a recliner and a bench where the height is about the size of the recliner's armrest.

put the bench to the side of the recliner and put the monitors on the bench.

position the mouse on the armrest. if you have a crappy ball mouse you have to get a lazer for this to work.

now when you use your mouse your elbow will be touching the armrest and you wont get carpal tunnel or any pain. its also much more comfortable sitting on a recliner all day instead of a computer chair.

if you dont like having to look to your right/left in order to see the monitors, you can purchase one of those $20 carts that go over your recliner, so that you can look directly ahead at them, and then just move the cart out of the way when you want to get up.

sublime 06-29-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
do you use the all right hand one? or two hands one?

Rudbaeck 06-29-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
Are the screens at the proper height? If you look straight ahead your eyes should be about 75% up the vertical height of the monitor. (Almost everyone has their monitor too low, causing them to hunch over.)

Get a vertical mouse, I like the ones from Evoluent. Least retraining for a 'new' pointer device. You hold it in a hand-shake grip instead of in the traditional supinated position. Which atleast stop your forearm bones from grating together against your wrist.

Is your chair good? And is the proper height compared to your desk? If the soles of your feet are flat against the floor your knees should bend at 90degrees, and when your upper arm is vertical your elbow should bend at 90degrees when gripping the mouse.

Tried out other chairs? Some people love the kneeling chairs, as well as the bizarre inflatable ball chairs. The Aeron is off course a good baseline.

Get a left handed mouse, preferably a vertical one as well. Get a couple of different trackballs. I'm particularly fond of the ones you can attach to one hand, and run with the other. Lets you vary position alot.

With a host of different pointing devices, and a strict regimen of upper body and back workout you can probably avoid RSI as a full time online pro. Probably. Atleast long enough for a revolution of input devices that don't make people into cripples.

Adde 06-29-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
Get yourself a better setup. I've seen others post pictures of theirs, but they sukk compared with mine, IMO. I've had similar problems (wrist/arm/neck) when I had the usual office table setup, but when I switched to the current one, no more problems, and so much more comfortable sitting environment.

The image is a year old, so picture it with two 2001fp:s, and an optical mouse (with a mousepad optimized for opticals; smooth and easy to rest the hand on). All stuff from IKEA, approximately $300 total for everything (including armchair/footstool). The mouse table is the real killer; all parts of your arm is rested at all times, and the optical mouse can be manuevered with very small movements, hardly moving the wrist at all. (BTW, the mouse table was not included, but I built it from the wood that should have been a shelf on the table.)

Adde

http://img116.echo.cx/img116/9564/tablechair43rd.jpg

sublime 06-29-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Moniter setup and Wrist/arm help for multitabler
 
Are the screens at the proper height? If you look straight ahead your eyes should be about 75% up the vertical height of the monitor. (Almost everyone has their monitor too low, causing them to hunch over.)

i am somewhat confused by this. if i look straight ahead i am looking at the top 30% of desktop space, are you saying i should be looking at like 50% of it?

i do a lot of hunching over, yes.


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