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Bigwig 07-16-2005 04:28 PM

Should I be getting this frisky with on the bubble?
 
Party $50

***** Hand History for Game 2372328929 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 13978820) - Sat Jul 16 07:17:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 14214 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: rafaroox (580)
Seat 3: HERO (2670)
Seat 6: badbeats_com (1340)
Seat 7: g4295 (5410)
badbeats_com posts small blind (150)
g4295 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad, Qc ]
rafaroox folds.
HERO raises (2670) to 2670
HERO is all-In.

Freudian 07-16-2005 04:40 PM

Re: Should I be getting this frisky with on the bubble?
 
Question is how big stack got those 5410 chips. Pushing is my default play but I have folded against loose bigstacks in the past.

Bigwig 07-16-2005 04:42 PM

Re: Should I be getting this frisky with on the bubble?
 
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Question is how big stack got those 5410 chips. Pushing is my default play but I have folded against loose bigstacks in the past.

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Good point. Big stack hasn't been particularly tight or loose, but has been tighter than a big stack should be. He should be Paris Hilton at this stage--opening pots all over the place since shorty is unwilling to gamble.

Shillx 07-16-2005 04:47 PM

Re: Should I be getting this frisky with on the bubble?
 
Push it. Push AJ and AT as well.

Brad

Edit - Got the blinds mixed up, but I would still push AQ and AJ. Muck AT.

pokerlaw 07-16-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Should I be getting this frisky with on the bubble?
 
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Question is how big stack got those 5410 chips. Pushing is my default play but I have folded against loose bigstacks in the past.

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Good point. Big stack hasn't been particularly tight or loose, but has been tighter than a big stack should be. He should be Paris Hilton at this stage--opening pots all over the place since shorty is unwilling to gamble.

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I voted fold, but if biggie isn't playing all out aggressively, I could see myself pushing. Very dependent on read of the big stack.

citanul 07-16-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Should I be getting this frisky with on the bubble?
 
How likely is the BB to make a spite call on you?

a couple of SNGPT examples:

If you put sb on the call range of TT+, AQs+, AKo and the bb on the call range of 22+, A2s+, A3o+, KTs+, KJo+, QJs+ this is a -.1% (loss of $.67) push according to ICM.

If you put the sb on the same call range and the bb calls range at any two cards, you're at a -4.9% push, with a loss of $24.57 on the hand. (that's relative to an equity of folding the hand and having a $151.07 equity in the tournament.) That's one of the larger percentagewise losses you're going to find on an average day.

If you put the sb on AA and KK and the bb on any two cards, you're running at a loss of -4.9% push. The same.

So basically what it comes down to is how likely you are to get called by the big stack. Anything as loose or looser than the range in the first paragraph up there, and well, poo.

citanul


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